What is it about the look of Metalcloak fenders that some do not like?

I didn't want to get into functionality, as I know MC make claims that are generally not accepted re clearance. But I believe you have hi lines, so I can see why your view is informed by the functional element. That said, personally I still don't see why the Overlines fit less with a TJ's lines than a number of other flat fenders - but then I am kind of putting words in your mouth as you have not said you like any oyher non-hi lines.

It's right there in the name Arched and Overline. The shape and the placement of the flares are entirely different than any other aftermarket replacement fender.

Here's a ridiculous exaggeration to illustrate...
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I know for me, my taste and vision of what a cool Jeep looked like was totally different when I first got my Jeep versus now. You have no idea what is functional and what is not when you’re new. Gain some experience with what works and what doesn’t and suddenly functionality becomes the new cool. At the end of the day, a Jeep with well functioning and well thought out modifications is usually also the better looking jeep me because my value system is based on function rather than gaudy flashy designs.

I agree. Learning and modifying from what I did 10-15 years ago is drastically different to what I do now. Like my Savvy double adjustable arms. Blaine and jjvw (and a few others) have laid out the specifics of how arms and joints function so well over the years that I had no problem spending the money for the Savvy DA’s. Just one example…

That being said I am only talking about the aesthetic part of the discussion. That varies so much individually that it’s like arguing over what everyone’s favorite color is. I am in no position to tell you what color to like…
 
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It's right there in the name Arched and Overline. The shape and the placement of the flares are entirely different than any other aftermarket replacement fender.

Its something I just don't get an appreciation of, but then almost everything I see is in pictures or on Youtube. I have never sen a set of MC in the flesh in the UK, indeed the only replacement fenders I have seen over here in the flesh are Poison Spyders.
 
Its something I just don't get an appreciation of, but then almost everything I see is in pictures or on Youtube. I have never sen a set of MC in the flesh in the UK, indeed the only replacement fenders I have seen over here in the flesh are Poison Spyders.

Think about it this way. Where the flares and clearance are concerned, there is no functional difference between Metalcloak and chopping off the factory outer fender about 2" away from the edge of the hood. The MC flare is shaped and positioned in such a way as to allow the tire to rise up above the hood line and still have some flare coverage.

There is a lot to unpack in that explaination. But that gets us deep into the subject of functionality.
 
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I didn't want to get into functionality, as I know MC make claims that are generally not accepted re clearance. But I believe you have hi lines, so I can see why your view is informed by the functional element. That said, personally I still don't see why the Overlines fit less with a TJ's lines than a number of other flat fenders - but then I am kind of putting words in your mouth as you have not said you like any other non-hi lines.

The overlines don't compliment any other line on the vehicle, so they just seem out of place in an attempt to look aggressive.

There's certainly some subjectivity to liking the ones I chose, but they follow the hood line drawn from the windscreen forward. But as @starkey480 mentioned, my motivation was function. I didn't need them to get where I am in my build, but they are a step in a direction it's going and made some things easier along the way.
 
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I noticed a comment in a recent very popular thread about a dislike of how MC fenders look, I believe I have seen this said before. Personally I don’t think they look bad at all. So if you do not like the look of MC fenders, can you share what it is? I guess, as compared to performance issues how something looks is an option, not an objective fact, but I am still interested.

To avoid a rerun of the other thread, I’m not asking about MC marketing or performance (things such as if the MC fenders allow more travel or not). My question is purely about aesthetics.

Why do you care what others think? Run what you like. I also think they are ugly, but I run them anyway. My Jeep build is not about looks
 
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I noticed a comment in a recent very popular thread about a dislike of how MC fenders look, I believe I have seen this said before. Personally I don’t think they look bad at all. So if you do not like the look of MC fenders, can you share what it is? I guess, as compared to performance issues how something looks is an option, not an objective fact, but I am still interested.

To avoid a rerun of the other thread, I’m not asking about MC marketing or performance (things such as if the MC fenders allow more travel or not). My question is purely about aesthetics.

It's a complicated thing when the looks of the product are derived from the functionality aspect of them.

With Metalcloak fenders, the look they have derived is based on a half-truth. That is what makes them ugly for me. It's like a dumpy looking girl that you barely like, then she opens her mouth to talk, you hear the nonsense spouting out and you now know the ugly is on the inside too.

"Diagram shows 35's with No Lift" is ugly. Measuring from the bottom edge of the flexible outside plastic flexible fender flare (instead bottom lip of the metal fender) and exaggerating the gains is ugly. I already disliked the looks of these to start with, but now see what I mean?


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Now Crawlteks are ugly too, but they are ugly like CJ-3Bs are ugly. The good kind of ugly. It's the girl that you see in movies being quiet, always supporting the central character and looks kinda frumpy. But then, towards the end, they do their hair, lose the glasses and voilà, everyone sees that they have been beautiful all along.

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It's a complicated thing when the looks of the product are derived from the functionality aspect of them.

With Metalcloak fenders, the look they have derived is based on a half-truth. That is what makes them ugly for me. It's like a dumpy looking girl that you barely like, then she opens her mouth to talk, you hear the nonsense spouting out and you now know the ugly is on the inside too.

"Diagram shows 35's with No Lift" is ugly. Measuring from the bottom edge of the flexible outside plastic flexible fender flare (instead bottom lip of the metal fender) and exaggerating the gains is ugly. I already disliked the looks of these to start with, but now see what I mean?


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Now Crawlteks are ugly too, but they are ugly like CJ-3Bs are ugly. The good kind of ugly. It's the girl that you see in movies being quiet, always supporting the central character and looks kinda frumpy. But then, towards the end, they do their hair, lose the glasses and voilà, everyone sees that they have been beautiful all along.

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Dammit man you called both sets of fenders I own ugly.
 
It's a complicated thing when the looks of the product are derived from the functionality aspect of them.

With Metalcloak fenders, the look they have derived is based on a half-truth. That is what makes them ugly for me. It's like a dumpy looking girl that you barely like, then she opens her mouth to talk, you hear the nonsense spouting out and you now know the ugly is on the inside too.

"Diagram shows 35's with No Lift"

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Why the hell can't I seem to fit 35's on my TJ without a lift then? What am I doing wrong?