No, no, no, not happening

[AndyG]

Pot- it was “the evil” when I was a kid....highly looked down on in the bible belt. Now parents are relieved if it all a kid does.

I’ve had a strange relationship with it- it either did nothing or just macramed me to the couch- hammered me and kind of tripped me out.

I think there was one time I liked the buzz.

But realistically the deal was kind of this- I drank, would lower my inhibitions/values and then try a toke- so most of the time I was well on my way to being schnockered when I tried it.

We all have our own story and we also sort of get a glimpse of what we think we would’ve became-And I think for me it was good that I did not like it and that I cleaned up my act at 26.

I think it has allowed me to value myself and be a lot better person.

Do I think I’m that great? No, But I do think I was going to be pretty awful. In my early 20s I seemed to be doing a pretty good job of that.

 

[Apparition]

I've experienced the opposite. I know several that smoke and/or use edibles and have for as long as I've known them. They're all very successful and make damn good money. I think for them though, its a way to unwind. Sort of how I would pour myself a cocktail after a long stressful day.

I've smoked it, I've enjoyed it. My first career out of college they required a clean drug screening to come on board. After that it was yearly with the occasional random test tossed in. A fun hour or two during the weekend wasn't worth getting fired over so I stopped.

 

[RHanna]

I've called myself a libertarian (lowercase L there) for a long time and in a perfect world I agree. But at the same time I've seen enough addiction that I don't take a concrete position that it should just be a free for all.

I would be fine with opening the flood gates on all of it as long as they agree to no government assistance after they run their lives into the ground. Of course that would never happen.

 

[Zorba]

I've called myself a libertarian (lowercase L there) for a long time and in a perfect world I agree. But at the same time I've seen enough addiction that I don't take a concrete position that it should just be a free for all.

I'm a lower case libertarian as well. On the one hand, the state shouldn't be involved with people's choices - on the other hand, some mechanism needs to be in place to protect us from idiots. I don't have the answer, other than we've gone WAAY overboard in the Nanny State direction. The "war on drugs" sounds good in principle, but has had major negative effects as well. *shrug* Prohibition doesn't work - so what do we do?

 

[AndyG]

I would be fine with opening the flood gates on all of it as long as they agree to no government assistance after they run their lives into the ground. Of course that would never happen.

I once read an article that cited healthcare costs of those that use long term, ie “the hippie generation”- the onset of illnesses at younger ages, the variety of illnesses and the disability situations, those on oxygen- it was pretty eye opening, and believable. It at least made a good case they were a bad insurance gamble and more prone to health issues at a younger age.

 

[Zorba]

I once read an article that cited healthcare costs of those that use long term, ie “the hippie generation”- the onset of illnesses at younger ages, the variety of illnesses and the disability situations, those on oxygen- it was pretty eye opening, and believable. It at least made a good case they were a bad insurance gamble and more prone to health issues at a younger age.

Yep - and the "Hippy Generation" is who's in charge right now, and that isn't working out so well, is it?

 

[AndyG]

Yep - and the "Hippy Generation" is who's in charge right now, and that isn't working out so well, is it?

Like a screen door on a submarine.

 

[freedom_in_4low]

I've experienced the opposite. I know several that smoke and/or use edibles and have for as long as I've known them. They're all very successful and make damn good money. I think for them though, its a way to unwind. Sort of how I would pour myself a cocktail after a long stressful day.

I've smoked it, I've enjoyed it. My first career out of college they required a clean drug screening to come on board. After that it was yearly with the occasional random test tossed in. A fun hour or two during the weekend wasn't worth getting fired over so I stopped.

i'm open to the idea that my perpsective could be subject to something along the lines of survivorship bias. I mostly only know about the ones that can't moderate it and just jump into constant use with both feet.

I've worked my entire life in roles that had random testing so most of my social network doesn't do it.

 

[Rickyd]

I'm sure it varies demographically,but aren't a higher percentage of kids addicted to phones and technology than older generations? The way it was explained to me social media and video games allow them a more readily available way to get their dopamine and escape their current reality. When we were kids it was different.

 

[AndyG]

I'm sure it varies demographically,but aren't a higher percentage of kids addicted to phones and technology that older generations? The way it was explained to me social media and video games allow them a more readily available way to get their dopamine and escape their current reality. When we were kids it was different.

Author Simon Sinek, “the millenial question” is a pretty good argument on that.

 

[tworley]

I'm sure it varies demographically,but aren't a higher percentage of kids addicted to phones and technology that older generations? The way it was explained to me social media and video games allow them a more readily available way to get their dopamine and escape their current reality. When we were kids it was different.

The gif option here isnt working, but this is my response.

https://tenor.com/view/dude-lebowski-thats-fucking-interesting-interesting-hmm-gif-5499553

 

[AndyG]

Here’s a question-

All these off the wall people like this thread is about and substance abuse-

Is the substance abuse a by product of the personality or is it the other way around-

It seems like it’s almost 100% a given with people like this to be taking and doing all kinds of things-

 

[Rickyd]

I'm sure it varies demographically,but aren't a higher percentage of kids addicted to phones and technology than older generations? The way it was explained to me social media and video games allow them a more readily available way to get their dopamine and escape their current reality. When we were kids it was different.

I should clarify that post. I was talking to tech support while posting,lol.

I meant that less kids are getting into drugs these days since they have electronic crutches instead. Neither are a good scenario.it is just different.

 

[red02tj]

I've experienced the opposite. I know several that smoke and/or use edibles and have for as long as I've known them. They're all very successful and make damn good money. I think for them though, its a way to unwind. Sort of how I would pour myself a cocktail after a long stressful day.

I've smoked it, I've enjoyed it. My first career out of college they required a clean drug screening to come on board. After that it was yearly with the occasional random test tossed in. A fun hour or two during the weekend wasn't worth getting fired over so I stopped.

Smoked it single digits in college but wasn’t into the pothead scene. However, I’ve recently started to enjoy adult gummies. Half a gummy after the kids goto bed for me is the same as a stiff bourbon. A way to unwind. If you’re popping multiples (or half a bottle of booze) you’ve got issues other than is pot good/bad or better/worse than booze.

 

[Apparition]

The gif option here isnt working, but this is my response.

[URL]https://tenor.com/view/dude-lebowski-thats-fucking-interesting-interesting-hmm-gif-5499553[/URL]

Works fine for me

 

[tworley]

Works fine for me

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[Apparition]

How'd you do that?

It would have been perfect!

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[tworley]

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[Apparition]

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[bmcgc]

Politically, I do not label myself.

I am for good government,

Not everyone who drinks is an alcoholic. You could apply the analogy to drug users.

I know quite a few people who never realized their full potential due to drugs and alcohol.

I also know quite a few people who died young from drugs, alcohol and tobacco.