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Exactly. I wonder if Monroe has a list or chart or something with extended / collapsed lengths and valving rates?

You'll never find valving rates, but back in the day, before Google, I was a parts counterman, and we had reference books that listed collapsed/extended lengths and shock mounting codes. You could search thru the charts and find a shock that worked for your application if you took the time. I'm sure it's much easier now-a-days.
 
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The published measurements between the two are similar, but not identical.Are they?

2003 Rubicon
They are made by Monroe, yes. I'm sure they have some say in the design that Monroe manufactures for them... Whether they share engineering or not, I have no knowledge
 
Does everyone understand that GM made both the Chevette and the Corvette in the same year? Just because something is made by the same company is no indication of it's specs, quality, or longevity. If I needed a shock made that didn't have the specs already that I wanted in an off the shelf product, I'd certainly contact a large shock builder and see if they could do what I wanted with the caveat and very clear wording that my product would be exclusive to me for my uses. I don't see any other way to work with them to get what I need and keep it mine.
 
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One must pay a premium for a proprietary product. We, as end users, can only assume that when we are buying a $100 shock, we are buying a product that has been tested to perform above the norm for the application by means of rigorous testing, quality control, and brand stigma, otherwise, we'd just go to the parts store and buy a Monroe off the shelf and call it good.

Now, I too am guilty of sending this thread down a rabbit hole!
 
One must pay a premium for a proprietary product. We, as end users, can only assume that when we are buying a $100 shock, we are buying a product that has been tested to perform above the norm for the application by means of rigorous testing, quality control, and brand stigma, otherwise, we'd just go to the parts store and buy a Monroe off the shelf and call it good.

Now, I too am guilty of sending this thread down a rabbit hole!
All I have to say about that is don't spend a lot of money and time developing a tune and shock for a specific rig like a TJ with Fox and expect them to keep it to your company and not sell it as their tune to other folks who then label it as their tune. ;)
 
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All I have to say about that is don't spend a lot of money and time developing a tune and shock for a specific rig like a TJ with Fox and expect them to keep it to your company and not sell it as their tune to other folks who then label it as their tune. ;)

Sad part, that has happened to you more than once. Amazes me that you still continue to plug away and provide the industry with some pretty cool shit.
 
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Shocks, like many things, have a few locations that build products for many companies. I recall reading some years ago that all tv's made are built in 3 different factories, same with appliances. When I shot long range comps the same companies that produced 3000 dollar scopes also put out 100 dollar cheap-o's.

All I have to say about that is don't spend a lot of money and time developing a tune and shock for a specific rig like a TJ with Fox and expect them to keep it to your company and not sell it as their tune to other folks who then label it as their tune. ;)
There are snakes all throughout industry, unfortunately.
 
Shocks, like many things, have a few locations that build products for many companies. I recall reading some years ago that all tv's made are built in 3 different factories, same with appliances. When I shot long range comps the same companies that produced 3000 dollar scopes also put out 100 dollar cheap-o's.

That and logic states if all shocks are the same, Monroe would only build one shock model.
 
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