What else do I need with 2" BDS lift?

[Bruce20]

Same here, I couldn't find any bad reviews, but did find several good ones. In some case you can reuse stock bolts, but replacement is recommended for some bolts (TTY bolts etc.). BDS manual says to consult the OE manual. The parts list in the 2" kit is in their following installation manual, so I assume these are the parts that come with the kit and that additional OE replacement bolts may be required beyond that.
http://bds-suspension.com/instructions/034204-11-06-08-114202.pdf

I'm not too concerned about the details since I'm not doing it myself, but it is good to know how the mix and match may or may not cost more. It is also good to know what bolts should be replaced so you can do it properly, or quiz the shop about it

I’m going to call BDS and see if I can get the springs and hardware and how much they charge. The $420 with the mix is with tax. You have a good point about the hardware. I will be DDing this setup and was a nice ride. That is why I’m getting anal about it. What brand tires do you plan on running?


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[Trendsetter75]

I haven't seen any reviews on the NX2 shocks except from BDS on youtube, but they are going to say its great. Are Procomp springs made in the USA cause I know BDS is?

 

[Mike_H]

What hardware are you talking about? You will reuse everything you've taken off... Spring and shocks don't generally require new hardware...

Do yourself a favor and go out to your garage. Get the Jeep on jack stands, under the frame. Pull the wheels, and disconnect the anti roll bar and bottoms of the shocks. Now, let the axle droop... The spring should come unseated. You can pull them out. Then use your floor jack, and move the axle around. Even better, lift it back up and reconnect the shocks.

Doing this will answer a bunch of questions in your mind... You'll see how the suspension moves, why you might need more bumpstop, and things will start to click for you.

Web Wheeling is fun, but there is no substitute for doing the real thing....

 

[Bruce20]

What hardware are you talking about? You will reuse everything you've taken off... Spring and shocks don't generally require new hardware...

Do yourself a favor and go out to your garage. Get the Jeep on jack stands, under the frame. Pull the wheels, and disconnect the anti roll bar and bottoms of the shocks. Now, let the axle droop... The spring should come unseated. You can pull them out. Then use your floor jack, and move the axle around. Even better, lift it back up and reconnect the shocks.

Doing this will answer a bunch of questions in your mind... You'll see how the suspension moves, why you might need more bumpstop, and things will start to click for you.

Web Wheeling is fun, but there is no substitute for doing the real thing....

I thought I could reuse the hardware. Thanks for clarifying. I will do that since I have the fenders off. I don’t have a garage, I wish I did, so I could leave my Jeep apart over night. I don’t know what brand tires to get yet. What are you running?


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[Trendsetter75]

Did you look into Zone offroad they are the sister company of BDS and they are a little cheaper in price?

 

[Bruce20]

Did you look into Zone offroad they are the sister company of BDS and they are a little cheaper in price?

I don’t care about the price. I just want quality. Does zone even offer a 2” kit?


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[Jerry Bransford]

What

I don’t care about the price. I just want quality. Does zone even offer a 2” kit?

Then get the ProComp springs and Rancho RS5000X shocks. I don't recommend cheap or poor quality which is why I didn't take the easy way out and go along with the easier prepackaged kit.

 

[Mike_H]

I thought I could reuse the hardware. Thanks for clarifying. I will do that since I have the fenders off. I don’t have a garage, I wish I did, so I could leave my Jeep apart over night. I don’t know what brand tires to get yet. What are you running?


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BFG Mud-Terrains.

 

[Bruce20]

What
Then get the ProComp springs and Rancho RS5000X shocks. I don't recommend cheap or poor quality which is why I didn't take the easy way out and go along with the easier prepackaged kit.

I know. That’s why I’m going with that.


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[Bruce20]

BFG Mud-Terrains.

Thanks!


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[Jerry Bransford]

I know. That’s why I’m going with that.

Oh good, I misread something and thought you were going with the BDS. Good decision.

 

[Bruce20]

Oh good, I misread something and thought you were going with the BDS. Good decision.

Yeah. I’m going with the BDS springs though because they are cheaper, but similar quality.


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[JMT]

I thought I could reuse the hardware. Thanks for clarifying. I will do that since I have the fenders off. I don’t have a garage, I wish I did, so I could leave my Jeep apart over night. I don’t know what brand tires to get yet. What are you running?


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I know you’re not asking me, but Cooper STT Pro’s 33x12.5r15. I recommend them as well as the BFG’s @Ranger_b0b mentioned

 

[Jerry Bransford]

I don't necessarily agree they are the same quality but if you absolutely feel the need to save a few dollars go for it.

 

[Bruce20]

I know you’re not asking me, but Cooper STT Pro’s 33x12.5r15. I recommend them as well as the BFG’s @Ranger_b0b mentioned

Hey, I was looking at them!!! In the 32x11.50r15 size of course. I was wondering how they are in the rain and snow. They look very aggressive for an a/t which I like and they have good treadwear. Are they good for a DD?
P.S I just noticed you live in Texas, so no snow, but what about rain?


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[Bruce20]

I don't necessarily agree they are the same quality but if you absolutely feel the need to save a few dollars go for it.

It will save me $40 for more Jeep parts.[emoji6]


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[JMT]

Hey, I was looking at them!!! In the 32x11.50r15 size of course. I was wondering how they are in the rain and snow. They look very aggressive for an a/t which I like and they have good treadwear. Are they good for a DD?
P.S I just noticed you live in Texas, so no snow, but what about rain?


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The Cooper STT Pro’s are a M/T tire. They are better in the rain then my prior GR Wrangler MT/R. I have had to get on the brakes in the rain and they handled well with one initial momentary slip. I have 6,000 miles on them. I like them a lot

 

[mots]

I’m going to call BDS and see if I can get the springs and hardware and how much they charge. The $420 with the mix is with tax. You have a good point about the hardware. I will be DDing this setup and was a nice ride. That is why I’m getting anal about it. What brand tires do you plan on running?

Cool, let me know what they say if you call. The springs are sold separately on their site, so that price should be easy to find. I would like to know more about the hardware listed in the BDS 2” lift instructions, specicically to which items are actually used on the TJ. Obviously not all the parts on the list are for the TJ, so their notes about not reusing some OE fasteners may not apply as some others are saying. That said, these TJ’s are old and I’d prefer to use newer fasteners especially where rusted or worn. Probably something better than OE. I haven’t found any bad reviews on the BDS springs or shocks (made by same company as Fox) that come in the 2” kit, just many positive ones. This, along with their warranty has me content to move forward with them. It would be awesome to hear from more folks on the forum actually running (or have ran) the BDS 2” lift.

I’m leaning towards BFG AT tires since I’ll be on road 99% of the time, an equal combination dry, wet, and snow packed/icy roads (not much deep snow or mud). From what I understand, these will be better for my use and climate, and should be a little bit quieter than the MT’s. I do like the look of the MT’s and would likely run them if I lived in a warmer climate. I also have looked at the Cooper STT (in between AT and MT?) and Mickey T ATZ...decisions, decisions.

 

[dla]

As Ranger_b0b asked... What hardware do you keep referring to?

BDS 2" lift consists of 4 new coil springs and 4 new shocks, that's it. You can add the rear track bar relocation bracket or the front cam bolts, but there is nothing more included in the "kit".

I've had the BDS springs (3" front and 2" rear) with the older BDS 5500 hydro shocks for the past 7 years. Completely satisfied with the ride and performance both on and off road. Don't know anything about the new NX2 shocks but when I have to replace mine I will most likely go with the Rancho RS5000X.

As far as the warranty is concerned, how often do you hear of a coil spring breaking?

 

[mots]

As Ranger_b0b asked... What hardware do you keep referring to?

BDS 2" lift consists of 4 new coil springs and 4 new shocks, that's it. You can add the rear track bar relocation bracket or the front cam bolts, but there is nothing more included in the "kit".

I've had the BDS springs (3" front and 2" rear) with the older BDS 5500 hydro shocks for the past 7 years. Completely satisfied with the ride and performance both on and off road. Don't know anything about the new NX2 shocks but when I have to replace mine I will most likely go with the Rancho RS5000X.

As far as the warranty is concerned, how often do you hear of a coil spring breaking?

I posted a URL a few posts back to the PDF installation guide on the BDS site for their 2” TJ lift. There is a section “Parts List”. On this list, which parts are for the TJ (some obviously aren't, like the Add-a-Leafs)? Are any of the fasteners listed recommended to be replaced or would be a good idea when doing this on a 13 year old Jeep with original and likely some rusty fasteners (nuts, bolts, washers etc)? Maybe I’m overthinking it and perhaps there aren’t many fasteners involved you would need to replace, but I just assumed changing out some of the old tired hardware for newer quality variants might be worthwhile? I’m trying to remove any rusty parts when I get the chance as I have very little rust on my Jeep.

Thanks for the info on your experience. Glad to hear you like your BDS lift! The warranty is really a non-issue and it doesn’t apply to the NX2 shocks in the same way as it would the springs. I plan to keep my Jeep for many years to come and it will be nice to have the springs covered for the life of the vehicle. If they ever sag and I lose ride height, it will be nice to have a warranty.