Frame Mounted vs. Body Mounted Sliders?

All of the ones that @mrblaine has designed are body mounted. While I don't know the exact reason for this, it seems to suggest that a proper slider should be body mounted.

Hopefully someone with more knowledge can chime in.
 
I had frame mounted sliders that I really liked. They did the job and helped to protect my body mounts, until...

I put a body lift on it, then it looked, um, awkward. Food for thought- what is your ultimate vision for your jeep?
 
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If it's opinions ya want. My humble reply...
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I put Poison Spyder on my TJ.They are 1/4" thick, has the bar and step, very heavy made. They bolt to the body mounts and along the side of the Jeep. Very solid when mounted. They were bare metal, so that is another thing to consider. Buy them ready to bolt on, or? I am going to install a 1.25" BL, hope it doesn't look to bad.
 
dbbd1 said:
I had frame mounted sliders that I really liked. They did the job and helped to protect my body mounts, until...

I put a body lift on it, then it looked, um, awkward. Food for thought- what is your ultimate vision for your jeep?
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How much of a body lift did you do? Any pictures?
 
I will be adding the 1.25" body lift when the body mounts get here. Some of them were busted and hanging loose. When I get done I will send or post pictures, before and after.
 
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Wallyc13 said:
I put Poison Spyder on my TJ.They are 1/4" thick, has the bar and step, very heavy made. They bolt to the body mounts and along the side of the Jeep. Very solid when mounted. They were bare metal, so that is another thing to consider. Buy them ready to bolt on, or? I am going to install a 1.25" BL, hope it doesn't look to bad.
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They are not solid. They have likely the worst mounting system you can possibly use to mount a rock rail you intend to actually use. That is until someone comes up with a Bluetooth version. And no, they do not bolt to the body mounts, they are sandwiched between the body mount and tub.
 
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Body mounted sliders, when designed and installed properly, offer better protection for the part of the tub (underneath the doors) that's vulnerable when wheeling in rocks. If you are serious and don't mind spending a bit, there is no better design than Savvy's out there.
 
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Sadly (or gladly) no pics of the jeep with the body lift and frame mounted rock rails. It was noticeable though, very.
Mine were mounted similar to these...

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Although they did not actually box in the body mounts, they protect them a bit.
 
Body or frame mount are your choice. Pick one and see how it works for you.
There is no better or worse, because it depends on what you need it for.

I run frame mounts on my crawler. And body mounts on my overlander.

They don't bluetooth in any way, other than a comedy factor. They are picking on you. With a serious bit of good info thrown in to make the post legit. That's just the informed bullying the lesser informed.
But it is what it is with social media.
Buy what you like.
If you get seriously into serious trails, go from there.
 
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While frame mounts sound stronger, they're not and they can also hang up due to their required mounting brackets that run under the tub between them and the frame. Serious rock crawlers all run body mounted rocker guards due to their added strength and better tub protection. Beginners or very casual offroaders tend to run frame mounted only because it sounds stronger or they're afraid to drill holes so they can mount the tub mounted rocker guards.

If you have the $$$ there is no better/stronger/better designed rocker guard than Savvy's which even includes a reinforcement that mounts from the inside to sandwich the tub. These are from when I mounted them on my previous TJ.

I left mine unpainted but you may prefer to paint them. I'm running the same rocker guards on my present TJ.

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OldButStillJeeping said:
Body or frame mount are your choice. Pick one and see how it works for you.
There is no better or worse, because it depends on what you need it for.

I run frame mounts on my crawler. And body mounts on my overlander.

They don't bluetooth in any way, other than a comedy factor. They are picking on you. With a serious bit of good info thrown in to make the post legit. That's just the informed bullying the lesser informed.
But it is what it is with social media.
Buy what you like.
If you get seriously into serious trails, go from there.
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The person isn't being picked on. That is only perceived that way by those with a persecution complex. What is being picked on mercilessly is a shitty mounting system for something that should never be mounted in a shitty manner.
 
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Can the mounting system be elaborated on a bit more other than saying it is not good? I think I read a while ago that a body mounted slider is better and it must have many holes to tie the body and slider together. If that is the case, simply drilling more holes in the poison spyder or similar slider achieves that and turns something that is so bad into something good. A plate could also be added to the backside of the body to sandwich the pieces together if desired.
Please expand on the difference between good and bad.
 
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mrblaine said:
The person isn't being picked on. That is only perceived that way by those with a persecution complex. What is being picked on mercilessly is a shitty mounting system for something that should never be mounted in a shitty manner.
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Damn, that's deep. A persecution complex. Seriously? Sir? Are we're talking about Jeeps or psychology?
Is it really that deep?
I thought we were talking about Jeep TJ rock sliders.
 
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smithcaz said:
Can the mounting system be elaborated on a bit more other than saying it is not good? I think I read a while ago that a body mounted slider is better and it must have many holes to tie the body and slider together. If that is the case, simply drilling more holes in the poison spyder or similar slider achieves that and turns something that is so bad into something good. A plate could also be added to the backside of the body to sandwich the pieces together if desired.
Please expand on the difference between good and bad.
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It's not the number of bolts holding it in place that make a tub mounted rocker stronger, it's the fact the slider is bolted directly to the tub so there is no leverage available against it that is the main contributor to its strength. There are just enough bolts to secure it in place but they're not seeing a lot of shear force. And better designs like Savvy's do add a plate behind the rocker to give it even more strength. See my above fifth photo.
 
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