Awesome link! Thanks for the book!Also, this is a good book on suspension geometry.
Awesome link! Thanks for the book!Also, this is a good book on suspension geometry.
Also, this is a good book on suspension geometry.
Awesome link! Thanks for the book!
Wow, thanks for sharing that. That's a great reference resource for us engineer types
What are the differences between the two?What is the difference between the two?
Quite a bit of vertical separation. The Ballistics piece does not require a body lift to fit. I haven't seen another bracket kit other than Savvy that requires a body lift.What are the differences between the two?
The jeep rode smooth enough but felt like shit. It bounced and lurched everywhere.
I wonder if that's what happened to my LJ. The previous owner said he replaced the front springs to compensate for the aftermarket steel bumper and winch he put on and it currently rides exactly like you described.
How does a Jeep ride smooth, yet bounce and lurch at the same time?
It doesn't. It rides smooth except when it's bouncing and lurching.
exactly. A small speed bump or seam in a concrete bridge it rides nice and smooth. As in no harsh jarring events. A bump that only effects one tire at a time, like a raised manhole cover, shallow depression in asphalt, and the jeep lurches and bounces. Even crossing a 4 way intersection with a lot of crown causes unpleasant motion. Its smooth, but totally sucks to drive.It doesn't. It rides smooth except when it's bouncing and lurching.
NoSprings with spacers? How thick? Thinking back on the original post, I wondered if the spacer was thick enough to create coil bind.
It is totally possible it's related. The TJ tail wiggle is notorious. It's a trackbar thing, and I do have a 3 link midarm rear suspension. What I perceived was a different feeling, but I totally accept that I could have perceived it because I was looking for it. It wasn't a shock thing, or a travel bias thing. The only factor I changed was rear spring rate. hieght and travel stayed consistent. I didn't drive hard enough to get near the bump stops much less stack height. I will say that the difference was not night and day, it was subtle but present. Maybe some people wouldn't even notice... my wife didn't.i misjudged the height of my TB bracket when i put my rear axle together.
when i went over uneven things as you describe. i could feel the rear end shift back n forth this also felt like lurching but side to side.
it was especially evident going over a set of RR tracks at an angle 1 wheel b4 the other. the whole tail would jerk n wiggle.
is this possible in your instance or not the same?
I've experienced that same feeling...kinda like the jeep is pivoting in the middle of the body over a bump. Def not going on the bumpstops or solid stacking the spring. Its never happened in mine, but rather one I test drove before I bought mine. I offered the lady considerably less than she was asking because I knew it wasn't right, but I also didn't know what was wrong. It wasn't bumpsteer, I know that.It is totally possible it's related. The TJ tail wiggle is notorious. It's a trackbar thing, and I do have a 3 link midarm rear suspension. What I perceived was a different feeling, but I totally accept that I could have perceived it because I was looking for it. It wasn't a shock thing, or a travel bias thing. The only factor I changed was rear spring rate. hieght and travel stayed consistent. I didn't drive hard enough to get near the bump stops much less stack height. I will say that the difference was not night and day, it was subtle but present. Maybe some people wouldn't even notice... my wife didn't.
The only reason I mentioned it was than brianj5600, a few pages back, said his rig rode better after changing to matched savvy springs and like normal, everyone dismissed him as an idiot because "spring rate has no effect on ride quality". I offered a possible explanation that maybe, just maybe Savvy springs do actually ride better than a cheap mismatched set of random springs because the engineers that selected the spring rate knew what the fuck they were doing.
stick around an learn a little...........the razzin is to try and bait you into figuring this out for yourself.
getting handed an answer is not learning or understanding.
if that's what you desire pay someone to do it, your wasting your time asking what you really don't need or wanna know.......
if you want to understand why and be able to explain why then stick around a while.
that pic of the link mount has dimensions plug them in. whats the minimum separation provide for AS/AD and IC then mid, then top? which 1's best n why? could it be better how/why?
what kind of #'s can you generate extending the links back in the relationship they are now? where do they end up?
1 more time............basic suspension guidelines.
start with wheel size/rolling radius. how much link separation does that wheel dictate to control that axle.
are you gonna change that or accept the compromise of the OE brackets if any?
whats the recommended angle for the lower arm to connect back to the frame?
how much separation at the frame do you need to control the axle the way you desire?
where on the frame is the spot that you can plant the dimensions you want/need?