Dave Kishpaugh's (Jeep West) geometry correction brackets are now available

[jjvw]

So it’s ok to compare your rig to one with less bells and whistles but when someone with a bigger toy compares theirs to yours it’s unfair?

Yes. Yours and mine have the same tires and a very similar wheelbase. We both have lockers. The differences in shock travel and valving become less significant given the nature of the obstacle. It is very clear to those who recognize it what the behavioral differences are and what the cause is.

 

[toximus]

We know by those who have it and as well as the numbers that it improves things. Those are facts. Not opinions but facts that it improves anti squat and roll center.
we can understand why one might choose the mid arm over these. But your constant neigh saying they won’t help is absolutely wrong.

Huh? BBR was implying that if it's the same as stock that it's worth installing. He didn't say anything about it being better. I don't see the point in that.

 

[someguysjeep]

i had this job to do. so i went to the store and got a crescent wrench, it worked, ok for almost everything. but at some points it got loose. my buddy came by and he has a 6 point socket and drive, and he made it look easier.

 

[NashvilleTJ]

i had this job to do. so i went to the store and got a crescent wrench, it worked, ok for almost everything. but at some points it got loose. my buddy came by and he has a 6 point socket and drive, and he made it look easier.

Were you trying to use an SAE crescent wrench on a metric fastener?

 

[jesseshoots]

Were you trying to use an SAE crescent wrench on a metric fastener?

Only a 3/4” on a 19mm or a 1/2” on a 13mm

 

[jjvw]

i had this job to do. so i went to the store and got a crescent wrench, it worked, ok for almost everything. but at some points it got loose. my buddy came by and he has a 6 point socket and drive, and he made it look easier.

Yesterday we needed to drill a bunch of holes for nutserts. We started with normal twist bits and step bits. It worked as well as we were used to. Halfway through the project, Amazon finally delivered the Rotabroach we had been reading about. It was a night and day difference in how well we were able to cut holes.

 

[someguysjeep]

Yesterday we needed to drill a bunch of holes for nutserts. We started with normal twist bits and step bits. It worked as well as we were used to. Halfway through the project, Amazon finally delivered the Rotabroach we had been reading about. It was a night and day difference in how well we were able to cut holes.

it's all about the chosen tools.

have him post up the info on his thread i may need 1 of those.

 

[toximus]

Yesterday we needed to drill a bunch of holes for nutserts. We started with normal twist bits and step bits. It worked as well as we were used to. Halfway through the project, Amazon finally delivered the Rotabroach we had been reading about. It was a night and day difference in how well we were able to cut holes.

Would you use the drill bit again, or was it worth waiting for the Rotabroach?

 

[Trevlaw]

Would you use the drill bit again, or was it worth waiting for the Rotabroach?

I'd use a hole punch

 

[jjvw]

Would you use the drill bit again, or was it worth waiting for the Rotabroach?

I wish we had the RB from the very start. As it relates to this thread, it's one of those things where once you know, it's difficult to go back and even more difficult to understand those who argue for so vehemently for the drill bit. The difference is that significant.

 

[jjvw]

I'd use a hole punch

Not where you can't

 

[starkey480]

I wish we had the RB from the very start. As it relates to this thread, it's one of those things where once you know, it's difficult to go back and even more difficult to understand those who argue for so vehemently for the drill bit. The difference is that significant.

@NashvilleTJ can say the same thing about his 40s and 116” wheelbase. Why the fuck are all these peasants out here on 35s? Don’t they know it’s a waste of time building for 35s when 40s make everything look like a cakewalk? I’m of course being facetious here but the willingness to spend $160 vs $3k for a product is about the same comparison. There’s always something better. Pick your price point and go fucking wheel. That’s what it’s about.

 

[Trevlaw]

Not where you can't

I think you underestimate the amount of old ass hole punches I have.

The rotobroach has one niche use that it works in fairly well. Whereas the twist drill works in 90% of other situations, and is one of the most efficient tools for it's purpose. Not talking in metaphors here, just tools

 

[freedom_in_4low]

Only a 3/4” on a 19mm or a 1/2” on a 13mm

Those are rookie numbers! I've bought new wrench sets that came with two 9/16" and no 14mm. I still have no idea whether my u joint straps are 5/16 or 8mm or whether my fan shroud is 11mm or 7/16.

 

[SoCalGlide]

How bored do you have to be to put in the time and effort to install something that is "no worse than stock"?

Way to twist words around.

 

[Pressurized]

Then Dave needs to stop trying to compare the two.

In all of my dealing with him on these, and I actually bought them, got instructions from him and replied when he checked in to see how they were doing for me... He never once said anything that was "comparing" them.

 

[Blackjack]

Yes. Yours and mine have the same tires and a very similar wheelbase. We both have lockers. The differences in shock travel and valving become less significant given the nature of the obstacle. It is very clear to those who recognize it what the behavioral differences are and what the cause is.

Yep you have your one data point where the limitation of correcting short arms geometry showed up and you are going to beat that horse until you can not even make glue from him.

 

[Blackjack]

Were you trying to use an SAE crescent wrench on a metric fastener?

 

[Apparition]

Hey @Wildman, I got 999

 

[BuildBreakRepeat]

Perfectly balanced all as things should be