Sound / thermal product with Bedrug / ACC carpet?

[SLWigley]

My husband and I just purchased a 2005 Wrangler X with only 37K miles and are ready to get started on cleaning up the inside.

My 1st plan is carpet so I started researching on here and read through the detailed 16 page thread on how to sound deaden the interior which leaves me some questions please.

I ordered samples of Bedrug and ACC, but am leaning right now towards Bedrug. That said..

1. Noico seems to be a good/popular one for sound deadening. I see many have used 80 mil and then 150 mil over it. How much does this help with heat since these products seem more for sound? OR am I better at option 2 below
2. If you want more heat control am I better doing Noico 80mil and then the carinsulation.com on top of it?
3. Is there a better option than these 2? Why use 2 separate products, is there just one product to use that will do both like SIless? It looks like it can do both with the 150 mil? Or still not as good as option 1 or 2 above.
4. Any concerns with bedrug fitting on top of these options? From what I read it should still be ok, but didn’t find a ton. What I did see is if we went the ACC route to prob just get the thinner cut pile carpet and not the Essex.

Thanks for any insight. I tried to do my homework before asking repetitive questions. And FYI this jeep isn’t planned for mudding, etc which I know we wouldn’t want to do Noico, etc if we planned on getting the inside wet all the time.

Thanks!

 

[SLWigley]

I was also planning to use Quadtratec mats if anyone has used that combo??

 

[B34C0N]

I did the 170mil foam based noico over the transmission tunnel and it helped the heat a lot.

The biggest help for transmission heat though was fixing my diff gears

 

[06lj]

I installed the Bedrug. The ACC is nice but heavy and I try and avoid any extra pounds. For insulation I used CSI 25070. I cut it to fit the floor pans and attached the pieces using aluminum tape. For heat it works great. I used to cook my right leg but now even in AZ I can touch the transmission tunnel and it is barely warm. I also prefer that it can be easily removed should I ever need to. It helped a little with noise but I've never really had a problem with mine being to loud. I'm not sure if that due to it being an LJ or just my tolerance to Jeep noises.

 

[LONGJP2]

No personal experience with those products.
However, I have had to remove my carpet several times for cleaning and/or drying. It happens.
Have you checked into spray-in liners for heat and noise.
https://lizardskin.com/

 

[notnsuv]

My husband and I just purchased a 2005 Wrangler X with only 37K miles and are ready to get started on cleaning up the inside.

My 1st plan is carpet so I started researching on here and read through the detailed 16 page thread on how to sound deaden the interior which leaves me some questions please.

I ordered samples of Bedrug and ACC, but am leaning right now towards Bedrug. That said..

1. Noico seems to be a good/popular one for sound deadening. I see many have used 80 mil and then 150 mil over it. How much does this help with heat since these products seem more for sound? OR am I better at option 2 below
2. If you want more heat control am I better doing Noico 80mil and then the carinsulation.com on top of it?
3. Is there a better option than these 2? Why use 2 separate products, is there just one product to use that will do both like SIless? It looks like it can do both with the 150 mil? Or still not as good as option 1 or 2 above.
4. Any concerns with bedrug fitting on top of these options? From what I read it should still be ok, but didn’t find a ton. What I did see is if we went the ACC route to prob just get the thinner cut pile carpet and not the Essex.

I know we wouldn’t want to do Noico, etc if we planned on getting the inside wet all the time

Thanks!

I'm in the process of installing Hotheads Sound Assassin in the entire tub, as much for heat as noise. I've experienced neither cuz I just got the LJ a few weeks ago, but I've read enough to know I want it. It's time consuming but satisfying and almost fun once you get the hang of it. I removed the interior; seats, console, all the carpet (with 29000 miles on it) and took the bolts out of the tranny tunnel bezel and got the deadener about 1/2" under that.

Immediately following will be BedRug for the whole interior. It's sitting in the shop. I considered BedTred for more money and might have done it in front and the rear seat but not the cargo area - that's where I'm in/out in shorts in the summer and I hate abrasions. Tred might be easier to clean but I've had good luck with BedRug in two pickup beds so went with what I know. A little more plush than Tred but still very durable. And I'll be putting good mats on top of it anyway.

ZERO rust on the tub, anywhere. I didn't expect to see any in a western Jeep but still, a relief. OEM paint it appears, including overspray.

I'll post pics when I can get them off my phone.

 

[SkylinesSuck]

I did Noico 80mil in my tub and it didn't do much for heat except melt and make a mess in one spot (a shop removed a heat shield without me knowing).

 

[SSTJ]

My husband and I just purchased a 2005 Wrangler X with only 37K miles and are ready to get started on cleaning up the inside.

My 1st plan is carpet so I started researching on here and read through the detailed 16 page thread on how to sound deaden the interior which leaves me some questions please.

I ordered samples of Bedrug and ACC, but am leaning right now towards Bedrug. That said..

1. Noico seems to be a good/popular one for sound deadening. I see many have used 80 mil and then 150 mil over it. How much does this help with heat since these products seem more for sound? OR am I better at option 2 below
2. If you want more heat control am I better doing Noico 80mil and then the carinsulation.com on top of it?
3. Is there a better option than these 2? Why use 2 separate products, is there just one product to use that will do both like SIless? It looks like it can do both with the 150 mil? Or still not as good as option 1 or 2 above.
4. Any concerns with bedrug fitting on top of these options? From what I read it should still be ok, but didn’t find a ton. What I did see is if we went the ACC route to prob just get the thinner cut pile carpet and not the Essex.

Thanks for any insight. I tried to do my homework before asking repetitive questions. And FYI this jeep isn’t planned for mudding, etc which I know we wouldn’t want to do Noico, etc if we planned on getting the inside wet all the time.

Thanks!

Hey, so one advantage of going with ACC over BedRug is that you can order 'mass backing' on the carpets. Would help with sound and also heat, I assume.

I don't know about carinsulation.com, so can't comment. But I would think that Noico + Mass-Backing Carpet would do well.

 

[LukesfirstJeep]

I installed the 80 mil Siless inside my tub, Bed Rug up front and Bed Tred in the rear. I haven't noticed any problems with heat, and it seems quieter. The Bed Rug dries quickly when I drag mud and water inside. Dog hair is easy to vacuum up on the Bed Tred.

I also use floor mats. The mats aren't anchored down and move a little, but not too bad.

 

[williambmac]

I went with ACC carpeting with the mass backing. It cut down on quite a bit of road noise.

 

[SSTJ]

I'm guessing/betting that heat might be managed best from the outside of the tub, via heat shields in the right places. I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I'd be eager to hear if others have advice on managing heat from the engine, the exhaust, etc.

 

[sam53]

Hi there, have 2 tj's. I purchased a set of Quadratec mats for 1 and then other one already had Weathertec's. No comparison, buy the Weathertec's. Just my two cents. I love them

 

[notnsuv]

I'm in the process of installing Hotheads Sound Assassin in the entire tub, as much for heat as noise. I've experienced neither cuz I just got the LJ a few weeks ago, but I've read enough to know I want it. It's time consuming but satisfying and almost fun once you get the hang of it. I removed the interior; seats, console, all the carpet (with 29000 miles on it) and took the bolts out of the tranny tunnel bezel and got the deadener about 1/2" under that.

Immediately following will be BedRug for the whole interior. It's sitting in the shop. I considered BedTred for more money and might have done it in front and the rear seat but not the cargo area - that's where I'm in/out in shorts in the summer and I hate abrasions. Tred might be easier to clean but I've had good luck with BedRug in two pickup beds so went with what I know. A little more plush than Tred but still very durable. And I'll be putting good mats on top of it anyway.

ZERO rust on the tub, anywhere. I didn't expect to see any in a western Jeep but still, a relief. OEM paint it appears, including overspray.

I'll post pics when I can get them off my phone.

BedRug is in with the exception of the rear seat brackets. Looks like i'll need longer bolts to mount the brackets so I don't have to cut the Rug for fitment. Time consuming project but I like the way it's turning out.

 

[notnsuv]

I did the 170mil foam based noico over the transmission tunnel and it helped the heat a lot.

The biggest help for transmission heat though was fixing my diff gears

Been meaning to ask. Is the tunnel temp a concern with the auto more than the manual? Makes sense to me.

 

[06lj]

Been meaning to ask. Is the tunnel temp a concern with the auto more than the manual? Makes sense to me.

Not really. Most of the heat is from the exhaust and cats that sit right under the floorboard.

 

[B34C0N]

Not really. Most of the heat is from the exhaust and cats that sit right under the floorboard.

Yup. The real issue was the very religious exhaust I had. It was quite holey.

But the tunnel does get warm. Especially when you haven't regeared your diffs and you're uphill.

Regear+new exhaust and it hasn't been an issue.

 

[notnsuv]

Yup. The real issue was the very religious exhaust I had. It was quite holey.

But the tunnel does get warm. Especially when you haven't regeared your diffs and you're uphill.

Regear+new exhaust and it hasn't been an issue.

Re-gear is in my future, depending on supply of full kits and axles.

 

[eastbloc]

I'm guessing/betting that heat might be managed best from the outside of the tub, via heat shields in the right places. I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I'd be eager to hear if others have advice on managing heat from the engine, the exhaust, etc.

Things will have to come out in order to properly insulate, there is simply no room to get in there and do it properly.

Outside - pull engine out and drop trans. Never mind, leave those in and take tub out, much easier to clean this way. Better yet, forget about this approach.

Inside - pull center console and front dash, remove AC unit. Wipe off dirt and apply foam based insulator. By foam I mean FOAM, as in foam, not butyl.
Seeing how much misconception some morons around here spread about butyl sound insulators, I will say again- use foam to control temperature.

If you smell antifreeze inside when ac/heater is on, or some of your vents are not blowing air, this is an ultimate opportunity to address this issues while front dash is out.

Don't use thick insulator, such as 8mm over transmission channel, you will have difficulty securing center console over it.

As far as outside heat shields, last time I checked, there weren't any, and you can't simply slide something in there and expect it to have any result.
JK models come with fiberglass insulator that is attached on firewall from inside the engine bay. If anything, that is what I call a true heatshield. I'm sure you can find one at junk yard and cut it to your needs, but once again, one does not simply opens the hood and expects to slide heat shield all willy-nilly.
Further more, transmission channel which is the hottest sections, will still have to be addressed.

 

[MikeE024]

I went with ACC carpeting with the mass backing. It cut down on quite a bit of road noise.

I'll likely get Bedrug or ACC carpet w/ mass backing.

I wonder if the mass backing benefits would be lost on me since I'm running 35s with a soft top (doors are currently off with the top down), and I don't have any heat issues from the tunnel.