Is Rock Hard 4x4 rear tire carrier / bumper still the overall recommendation?

I think some raw numbers would be interesting to see, if only to satisfy a curiousity. I for example have no clue the difference between your setup and @NashvilleTJs 40" on a full-custom tire carrier.
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His measurement from the same point of reference on the body plus a tire size is all I would need to start making a useful comparison.
 
I was curious, so I found this.
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The larger tire sits about 3-4" higher above the bottom of the body than mine does. But the carrier holding that tire occupies a bunch of space under that tire. Plus the entire assembly sticks out further.

Therefore, the only reason that setup might have more ground clearance than mine is because the frame height is higher than mine is.

All for what that is worth when comparing two very different builds and build philosophies.
 
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X2. Most will recommend a body mounted carrier separate from the bumper. MoRyde or Exogate.

If you're wheeling, a minimalist bumper like from NextVenture would be good.
That's a sweet looking bumper. A beast, yet still high clearance and low profile.
I will need towing capabilities for a small trailer (Dinoot or Tentrax).

But wow... $899 isn't inexpensive...
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Good lord.. that is gorgeous... Yellow really is the best color
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I was curious, so I found this.
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The larger tire sits about 3-4" higher above the bottom of the body than mine does. But the carrier holding that tire occupies a bunch of space under that tire. Plus the entire assembly sticks out further.

Therefore, the only reason that setup might have more ground clearance than mine is because the frame height is higher than mine is.

All for what that is worth when comparing two very different builds and build philosophies.

That rig looks familiar. Can’t place it…

One thing about the tubing below the tire that creates the swing down assembly. I’ve certainly dropped it onto big ledges coming down, but the angle and strength of the tubing lets the rig slide right off, and does not get hung up on the tire. Lots of rock rash on the underside of those things.

But the big thing about the destign is that I can get that 40 on and off by myself without much effort. And easy access to the tailgate when it swings away.

But, it weighs a ton, and I can’t see much out the rear view mirror. As I said - trade offs.

And just for fun I measured - it’s 38” to the bottom of the tire.
 
By the way, looking at the thread title reminded me that the bumper part of that monster is a Rock Hard. Heavily modified, but it did start out as one. It is crazy heavy duty.
 
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I was curious, so I found this.
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The larger tire sits about 3-4" higher above the bottom of the body than mine does. But the carrier holding that tire occupies a bunch of space under that tire. Plus the entire assembly sticks out further.

Therefore, the only reason that setup might have more ground clearance than mine is because the frame height is higher than mine is.

All for what that is worth when comparing two very different builds and build philosophies.

By the way - I did make it up that ledge. On FIns, I believe.

 
And just for fun I measured - it’s 38” to the bottom of the tire.
28" on mine.

Very cool. So Jeff's carrier places the tire ~12.5" higher (after accounting for tire size difference).

Of course, the lowest point is still at the tubes. I can see an advantage being that the tubes slide better and withstand large hits better than the bare tire can.
 
Hey everyone,

I'm about to pull the trigger on a new rear tire carrier /bumper to replace my redrock one. Reasons for replacing are it rattles all the time, I don't trust the welds, pivot from breaking, and I want to tow a small trailer and I also don't trust the integrated hitch receiver. I've seen over the years that people love the Rock Hard 4X4 tire carrier as it seems to not rattle, be very strong, and has a proper hitch for towing (within reason). It also costs $1700+ to get delivered ($300 freight shipping). Are there any other brands out there people recommend? I'll be carrying a 35" spare and towing a 1000lb trailer. What are y'all running these days? thanks

FWIW, I have this tire carrier and bumper and would love to let it go to you if you haven't been dissuaded yet :LOL:
 
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By the way - I did make it up that ledge. On FIns, I believe.


That's Fins alright, always a treat hearing that Hemi roar!


I went down that same bypass last year, but totally wussed out on going back up. The video truly never does it justice..
 
can I use the factory spare tire bracket for a 35" tire? is it strong enough or do people recommend getting beefier ones? also will the stock bracket fit a 35" tire with 3.75" backspacing?
 
can I use the factory spare tire bracket for a 35" tire? is it strong enough or do people recommend getting beefier ones? also will the stock bracket fit a 35" tire with 3.75" backspacing?
The factory spare tire carrier, by itself, is not strong enough for 35's. Mine cracked and failed when I was still only running 33's. About the only way the factory spare tire bracket will hold up is if something like the below exists to support the weight of the tire.

Morryde and Exogate make a reinforcing kit for the tailgate and hinges and it holds up to even 37's from what I read. The key is their use of a hidden internal bracket that transfers the weight of the tire to the right-rear rollbar support base.

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@Jerry Bransford I ordered the morryde with all the reinforcements, but I need to reuse the spare tire bracket, there are some for sale locally (OEM) but was wondering if it is strong enough to carry my spare. can you recommend an aftermarket up to the task? i dont have to rely on having a brace underneath the tire
 
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@Jerry Bransford I ordered the morryde with all the reinforcements, but I need to reuse the spare tire bracket, there are some for sale locally (OEM) but was wondering if it is strong enough to carry my spare. can you recommend an aftermarket up to the task? i don't have to rely on having a brace underneath the tire
Sorry I just don't know which, if any, aftermarket spare tire mounting brackets are stronger and worth installing. It has been >20 years since I last used the OE type of spare tire mount, I switched to the tub-mounted OR-Fab spare tire carrier.
 
So, is the recommendation to leave the spare off the LJ for Moab?
Gonna look into some of the recommendations here for alternative to the Currie pictured in an effort to lose weight.
Front Currie as well with Warn PowerPlant. Don't know which if any aluminum bumpers will accommodate the PP.

I'm not trying to hijack the thread, just enjoying the discussion.

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So, is the recommendation to leave the spare off the LJ for Moab?
Gonna look into some of the recommendations here for alternative to the Currie pictured in an effort to lose weight.
Front Currie as well with Warn PowerPlant. Don't know which if any aluminum bumpers will accommodate the PP.

I'm not trying to hijack the thread, just enjoying the discussion.

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I personally would not run Moab without a spare. Many of the trails are very remote, and if you cut a tire bad enough that it cannot be repaired with plugs or a patch, it’s a long journey to send your buddies back for your spare.

Leaving the spare behind will not make a huge difference in you enjoyment of the trails. And the spare is generally not going to be the difference between making something and not.