Help me pick out my next gun

qslim said:
I ordered some 12g Dragon's Breath late one night after convincing myself I need them, and they're still in an ammo can. Seems like when there's not snow on the ground half this state is burning with wildfires at any given point - I don't want to burn down a range front. They look fun though.
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Shoot them over a lake that is empty. 😉
 
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Whatever you chose, find someone to train with that knows what they are doing.

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Well I guess all of the protesting has been good for gun sales. I stopped by Bass Pro in Manteca CA yesterday afternoon and they were about sold out. They have 12 rile / long gun racks and only 3 had guns, they have 5 display cases for hand guns but about a case and a half had any guns. They only had revolvers, the sales guy it's best order online and then pick it up at the store if no exactly what you want. That does not do me much good as I need to be able to hold one first

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dlm1450 said:
As a guy who's put thousand's of different rounds downrange with more weapons than I can count, here's my two cents. Firstly, pick something you enjoy shooting. Simply put, if you don't enjoy shooting the weapon, you won't want to practice with it. Without practice, you'll likely have a failure to feed/fire, drop the magazine (thinking you're taking the safety off), forget to rack it, etc or shoot yourself or a loved one before you even hit your attacker. For example, I have a .380 pocket pistol I intended to carry but gave up on it after I realized I hated shooting the thing and therefore never practice with it. On the other hand, my 1911 roars like a lion and is AMAZING fun to shoot.

Secondly, regarding caliber, a good friend once told me, "If someone is shooting at you, you're going to run away". This, of course, is only applicable to humans. Humans, mind you, that aren't on mind altering drugs. Hence, if you're in bear country, get something to take down bears. If you live in the city, get whatever you want and just make sure you know how to use it.

Thirdly, for home defense, I can't argue with the Remington 870. I have one, and I love it. However, if I could only pick one weapon for personal defense, I'd forget about rifles and shotguns and go with a Taurus Raging Judge Magnum 513 with the 6" barrel. It shoots 3" .410 for home defense (you get five 000 buckshot pellets). At close range, that's like hitting someone 5 times with a .380 in one shot! You can also shoot .454 casull which should take down any bear, rhino, or crack-head you want. It also shoots .45 LC which is a slow moving but huge projectile. Great stopping power while not likely to over penetrate. The Raging Judge is HUGE AND HEAVY for a pistol but WAYYYY smaller/lighter than any shotgun or rifle. Easily transported and concealed in the glove box, under the seat of your car, in a backpack, etc. Also, being so heavy, the recoil shooting the .454 casull is still controllable and "comfortable". Also, the long 6" barrel should provide excellent accuracy and muzzle velocity. Finally, as with all revolvers, reliability should be top notch. And if you have a fail to fire, there's not slide to rack, just keep pulling the trigger and the bear won't eat too much of your leg.

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Well we do have these guys also, not home invasion but garbage can invasions. This is 2 weeks ago from my deck

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For home defense...

Remington 870 Home Defense edition.
Load it woth birdshot if your worried about overpenetration.

Overpenetration IS a big deal, dont overlook it.

And a BIG no to ARs as a HD. Not the first choice.

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I have shotguns, but for camping a 44 magnum revolver will cover everything and .44 spl will work for everything else.

Lower 48 .357 magnum/.38 spl

Defend your home with either.
 
qslim said:
I had a Glock 20c, that gun was a hoot. Ammo was pricey though. I wish I still had it, much like every gun & vehicle I ever sold.
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That’s one of my big out packages. I have a couple Gen 4 Glock 20‘s and a MEC Tec carbine. I get the ammo cost but, 10 mm puts a smile on my face every time. I imagine it’s like shooting a laser. Seems to be on target at any range.
 
Indy said:
I loved my AR until I had to make it CA compliant with recent law changes.

We can't have pistol grip, forward pistol grip, flash hiders, suppressors, folding stocks, barrel length of less than 16 inches and over all length of less than 26 inches. Even with all this, I'm not sure if I can have a mag release either. I'm sure I'm missing other things as well.

All those changes makes the gun akward to use and takes away the ease of use.
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Wow, just pour some cement in the barrel and finish it off. My wife just brought some 40 round P-Mags we plan on lighting up the range this week.
 
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...you could always become proficient at axe throwing... :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::p:p Or buy a claw hammer at local hardware store...CA hasn't banned them yet!!! Or, a good ol' pipe wrench!!
 
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DoOver said:
That’s one of my big out packages. I have a couple Gen 4 Glock 20‘s and a MEC Tec carbine. I get the ammo cost but, 10 mm puts a smile on my face every time. I imagine it’s like shooting a laser. Seems to be on target at any range.
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I love 10mm as well. I had to give up the G20 and G29 SF's as they are too big for my hand. Bought a Springfield XDM
OSP in 10mm and the love is back. I picked up a Hi Point Carbine (gasp!) in 10mm and it has never failed to impress me.
 
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Rubi04 said:
It’s a better platform. We can go into details easy, but a shotgun is not ideal.
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I think an AR has more use overall... but for close quarter home defense, for an average person.... the shotgun is the ideal choice.

The sound of pumping the round in the chamber can be a deterrant.

Load it with birdshot, remove any choke, and you can nervously sweep clean a hallway or living room and not worry about overpenetrating.

I read what you said about the 5.56.... but it is still a rifled round, and walls are still made of chalk.
 
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Sancho said:
I think an AR has more use overall... but for close quarter home defense, for an average person.... the shotgun is the ideal choice.

The sound of pumping the round in the chamber can be a deterrant.

Load it with birdshot, remove any choke, and you can nervously sweep clean a hallway or living room and not worry about overpenetrating.

I read what you said about the 5.56.... but it is still a rifled round, and walls are still made of chalk.
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5.56 does not usually over penetrate the round deflects and and goes sideways through the back wall.

Plus, subsonic rounds in a suppressed 300 blackout leave a significant advantage over a shotgun.
 
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