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Im having a very difficult time getting them to balance. First time was terrible. Second time I got their good guy on them. He thinks it’s the wheels. He tried multiple orientations. I wanted all stickies on the inside of the wheel, but after an hour I resorted to letting him use some of the clamp on style on the inside. I’ve already lost one of those. Even from that balance they weren’t balanced. I can live with it for awhile, but I don’t want uneven wear on the tires.
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He has a machine to check this. Ask them to stop being lazy and find out.
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I think he did. It’s been 6 months, so my memory is a little faint. It’s why I’ve been looking since way back then on and off, especially when I was distracted by the Adams driveshaft fiasco. Plus, I want out of the DC-2’s. You were the one got me thinking more about Beadlocks. What put me over the edge was the cost of normal wheels has increased so much. I could do a 15” Beadlock and move these tires over for $2k. Lots of other options like OMF, but I’d rather not modify the DC-2’s. No steel Beadlocks of interest to me. Coyotes do interest me, but I’d still need new wheels that I like and I’m very picky. I’m also injured right now and could not perform that labor.
How many times have you thought you needed to air down to 6 psi to make an obstacle?
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Countless. There’s this loose hill climb a few miles from me. Then there’s this trail called Rollercoaster and when it’s snowed over I need to be down to 6psi.
Really it’s just that I can’t stand to spend $1k on wheels I don’t like when I can spend $2k for one’s I do like AND get more functionality. It’s the same reason I did a full tuck rather than a partial. If I’m going to go part way I may as well go all the way. No use half-assing it. I literally can’t find a typical wheel I like. I kind of like the Ansen 969’s but wrong size and color. I sorta like the Walker Evans but wrong color. I like Mamba Moab look-alikes but backspacing is 4.5. Those would all get beat to hell anyway and add no functionality. Over-thinking it is my specialty.
I’ve been thinking on this two years now. Even my wife says get new wheels.Im open to suggestions. I checked all the companies that @Fouledplugs mentioned in his beadlock thread. I also looked at the builds of several of you top guys on here which was interesting to say the least.
I think there is a little bit of this! ^^^
Having run beadlock wheels a couple times, I can't justify the cost and performance loss I experienced with them. If I go that route again, it would be with the Coyote beadlock system. That way you get a true locked tire on the rim. That said, you have folks here like @jjvw who wheeled their Jeeps hard without beadlocks. Maybe they had a tire that lost the bead occasionally, but it's really not a big deal.
The Hutchinson bead locks (like @Plumber1 has) are an internal double bead lock, definitely a high buy in but if you need a new wheel and you go with the Coyotes the cost is the similar. Personally I abuse my wheels when wheeling and I like having a lock ring to grind on vs my wheel.Countless. There’s this loose hill climb a few miles from me. Then there’s this trail called Rollercoaster and when it’s snowed over I need to be down to 6psi.
Really it’s just that I can’t stand to spend $1k on wheels I don’t like when I can spend $2k for one’s I do like AND get more functionality. It’s the same reason I did a full tuck rather than a partial. If I’m going to go part way I may as well go all the way. No use half-assing it. I literally can’t find a typical wheel I like. I kind of like the Ansen 969’s but wrong size and color. I sorta like the Walker Evans but wrong color. I like Mamba Moab look-alikes but backspacing is 4.5. Those would all get beat to hell anyway and add no functionality. Over-thinking it is my specialty.
Im open to suggestions. I checked all the companies that @Fouledplugs mentioned in his beadlock thread. I also looked at the builds of several of you top guys on here which was interesting to say the least.
This is the one feature of a beadlock I really like. A sacrificial rock ring!
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We’re all on the same page then.This is the one feature of a beadlock I really like. A sacrificial rock ring!
Also, I looked at Hutchinson and @Plumber1 rig. No complaints. An inner bead is less likely to be lost due to forces commonly incurred. Thus the single outer beadlock systems.
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I air down to 9psi all the time and never lose a bead. If I did it wouldn’t bother me much. I just can’t find a non-beadlock wheel I’m willing to spend $225+/wheel on and gain no functional advantage. That’s one reason I’m heading toward a beadlock.
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Some of those sacrificial rings cost more than a normal wheel. My rings are scratched to hell, mostly from the Rubicon.This is the one feature of a beadlock I really like. A sacrificial rock ring!
Beadlock wheels can add 15+ lbs per wheel of unsprung weight. This impacts braking, acceleration, and handling. For me, it was very noticeable.
can't poke a hole in those DC's and use the coyote's?
don't see you mentioning wheel damage often so do you need the rock rings or the double bead lock and run flat?
new rims and coyote's might be less or at least comparable to aluminum BL's.
don't see you mentioning wheel damage often so do you need the rock rings or the double bead lock and run flat?
new rims and coyote's might be less or at least comparable to aluminum BL's.
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I hate the look of the DC-2’s. They are also beat up from the inner to the outer. At times I have to remove sharp points that protrude over the edge toward the tire. They won’t balance.
Coyotes are on my list, but I have a neck injury with no end in sight, so the prospect of some of the steps isn’t possible anytime soon. Plus, what wheel? I can’t find any wheel I like and I’ve been looking for 2 years. Im very picky. Aesthetics’s aren’t everything, but I won’t be happy if I don’t like them. The 3 wheels I sort of like have either bs issues or wrong color. I don’t want to use a spacer. I don’t like more links in the chain. I like simplicity which attributes to elegance and less problems.
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Not worried about scratches. Rings are around $120 each. Not a bother to me.