Novak Conversions Jeep Wrangler TJ engine mounts

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Ordered on February 8 and haven't received anything about shipping. I see the order confirmation, via email, but when I log into my account there's nothing showing. Will have to call them later today.
Yeah, same here. I wasn't so worried about the lack of a tracking number as much as not being having any other contact beyond the initial automated order confirmation email. They sure were good about charging my card nice and quick though! It would be nice to know if they are on back order and what the ETA is.
 
Sent Yukon an email and here's the response back from Brian "Gus" Pyeatt

"Im sorry to hear about the problems you have had and the negative experience with it.

We do not sell on Amazon, or on Ebay, any product of ours purchased on those sites would be thru a 3rd party, and we have no control of. I have no way to verify parts included, or if it was a returned item.

My recommendation would be to reach out to the vendor on amazon that it was purchased thru , and try to get the stub shaft, locking hubs, and u joint replaced / exchanged."



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Sent Yukon an email and here's the response back from Brian "Gus" Pyeatt

"Im sorry to hear about the problems you have had and the negative experience with it.

We do not sell on Amazon, or on Ebay, any product of ours purchased on those sites would be thru a 3rd party, and we have no control of. I have no way to verify parts included, or if it was a returned item.

My recommendation would be to reach out to the vendor on amazon that it was purchased thru , and try to get the stub shaft, locking hubs, and u joint replaced / exchanged."



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Wow. Now I know to buy it straight from Yukon when the time comes.
 
Sent Yukon an email and here's the response back from Brian "Gus" Pyeatt

"Im sorry to hear about the problems you have had and the negative experience with it.

We do not sell on Amazon, or on Ebay, any product of ours purchased on those sites would be thru a 3rd party, and we have no control of. I have no way to verify parts included, or if it was a returned item.

My recommendation would be to reach out to the vendor on amazon that it was purchased thru , and try to get the stub shaft, locking hubs, and u joint replaced / exchanged."



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The generally accepted view of the US from the UK is that it is the land of amazing customer service. Maybe I need to generalise less from now on.
 
This seems to be a very common thing when purchasing thru Amazon. Companies for whatever reason don't like to back products or warranties on Amazon purchased items.
It is ridiculous as if they didn't want it sold on those platforms surely they can just not supply vendors who operate on those platforms. Seems they are happy to take the money from companies selling on Ebay and Amazon but...
 
Sent Yukon an email and here's the response back from Brian "Gus" Pyeatt

"Im sorry to hear about the problems you have had and the negative experience with it.

We do not sell on Amazon, or on Ebay, any product of ours purchased on those sites would be thru a 3rd party, and we have no control of. I have no way to verify parts included, or if it was a returned item.

My recommendation would be to reach out to the vendor on amazon that it was purchased thru , and try to get the stub shaft, locking hubs, and u joint replaced / exchanged."



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I had the same type of situation happen with an amp I bought for my Harley. Bought it off Amazon only to find out it DOA so I reached out to the manufacture of the amp. They informed me that they didn't sell on Amazon or Ebay and that I needed to contact the seller to try and get the issue worked out. Needless to say I ended up eating the money I'd spent on that amp.
 
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I have had very good luck with Amazon support. Usually they are more than happy to help out when I have issue with stuff like this, they will act as a middle man and either get the replacement parts or refund the money if the seller refuses.
 
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That's the one from Alloy USA?

That thing is beefy, no clearance issues with these?

I have 0 clearance issues with mine. They are 5/16" thick

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Got bored and called Poly Performance. They said it's being drop shipped and they just called the company to double check. Said it should ship Wednesday or so.
 
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Sent Yukon an email and here's the response back from Brian "Gus" Pyeatt

"Im sorry to hear about the problems you have had and the negative experience with it.

We do not sell on Amazon, or on Ebay, any product of ours purchased on those sites would be thru a 3rd party, and we have no control of. I have no way to verify parts included, or if it was a returned item.

My recommendation would be to reach out to the vendor on amazon that it was purchased thru , and try to get the stub shaft, locking hubs, and u joint replaced / exchanged."



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Sad but true. I fought this a lot at my previous employer. Anyone can sell anything on Amazon, so they could buy our product at wholesale, then mark it up and resell on Amazon. It sucks for everyone...except amazon. As a mfg, you have to treat it like secondary sales. We don't know what has been done to the item before it goes to Amazon. There is no control. It's almost impossible to police it, even in our situation where we approve all our dealers. Once we find out about it, we can yank the dealer's agreement, but as you've experienced, the damage is already done. Sorry you have to deal with it.
 
Sad but true. I fought this a lot at my previous employer. Anyone can sell anything on Amazon, so they could buy our product at wholesale, then mark it up and resell on Amazon. It sucks for everyone...except amazon. As a mfg, you have to treat it like secondary sales. We don't know what has been done to the item before it goes to Amazon. There is no control. It's almost impossible to police it, even in our situation where we approve all our dealers. Once we find out about it, we can yank the dealer's agreement, but as you've experienced, the damage is already done. Sorry you have to deal with it.
I don't really get this I am afraid. If a manufacturer sells through third parties why is it different if one of them uses Amazon as a platform for sales? If the manufacturer supplies to any third party there is a risk that reseller may cause an issue with their product. Why is it a unique and different issue when something is sold via Amazon or Ebay? I could understand if the email said something like 'you must go through the party you bought it from and they may contact us', that is reasonable the consumer's contract is with the reseller and the reseller's contract is with the manufacturer. It is the implication that had it been bought somewhere other than Amazon or Ebay Yukon would have helped, but as you went via Amazon 'tough luck' I think unreasonable.
 
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I don't really get this I am afraid. If a manufacturer sells through third parties why is it different if one of them uses Amazon as a platform for sales? If the manufacturer supplies to any third party there is a risk that reseller may cause an issue with their product. Why is it a unique and different issue when something is sold via Amazon or Ebay? I could understand if the email said something like 'you must go through the party you bought it from and they may contact us', that is reasonable the consumer's contract is with the reseller and the reseller's contract is with the manufacturer. It is the implication that had it been bought somewhere other than Amazon or Ebay Yukon would have helped, but as you went via Amazon 'tough luck' I think unreasonable.
Because the barrier to entry for resale on Amazon or Ebay is SO much lower. They try to make sure they have good, reputable resellers on those sites (especially amazon. You wouldn't believe the hoops you jump through), but really, an email address and probably a warehouse for inventory (could just be a closet in your house). There isn't a brick and mortar requirement. There isn't a "public facing" storefront that needs to be maintained. That stuff isn't important to online sales, but maintaining those things brings about a certain level of trust with a consumer and as a business operator, you learn how to manage consumers properly (or your business fails).

Yes, there is risk with any reseller. And really, what you put in your response, "you must go through the party you bought it from and they may contact us" while being worded better, is still kinda telling the consumer to piss off.

Another dirty little trick that resellers will play is buying at wholesale and reselling below MAPP (minimum advertised product pricing). OEM's try to control their prices (though, technically, in the good ol USA its called price fixing and is illegal) so as to not cheapen the brand. Its common to have MAPP somewhere in the neighborhood of 20% off MSRP and about 20% more than wholesale. That gives dealers some wiggle room to negotiate on price, but still keep their doors open. What is common for people on Amazon and Ebay (and other online sites, like gun broker) is to figure a way to buy at wholesale, then undercut MAPP because they don't need to make as much profit as a brick and mortar. Their overhead is MUCH lower. Then, when the consumer writes the OEM, They have to deal with the mess that the neckbeard caused by not doing things the "right" way. By the way, when you see an online store that makes you add to cart because their price is so low that they can't advertise it? Yeah, that's what is going on. They are selling for less than MAPP.

Consumer sales are a pain in the ass. I'm not really defending Yukon here, as I believe MFG's should stand behind their product, but it can be a bitter pill. Its akin to someone buying something at a garage sale, NIB, finding it doesn't work, then expecting the mfg to take care of it. Its new, but it was purchased on the second hand market. Should the MFG take care of it or not? Typically all consumer protection ends at the point of the first retail sale. Sales on Amazon and Ebay are more blurry along the 'retail' sale line.
 
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Sent Yukon an email and here's the response back from Brian "Gus" Pyeatt

"Im sorry to hear about the problems you have had and the negative experience with it.

We do not sell on Amazon, or on Ebay, any product of ours purchased on those sites would be thru a 3rd party, and we have no control of. I have no way to verify parts included, or if it was a returned item.

My recommendation would be to reach out to the vendor on amazon that it was purchased thru , and try to get the stub shaft, locking hubs, and u joint replaced / exchanged."



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Someone, somewhere is completely full of shit.
From a diff cover I purchased, click the link and it takes you to the Yukon store on Amazon.

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Someone, somewhere is completely full of shit.
From a diff cover I purchased, click the link and it takes you to the Yukon store on Amazon.

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https://www.amazon.com/stores/Yukon...86E-4B3D-BF9D-FDD63C335E36?tag=wranglerorg-20

Yeah, he is being lied to.

OP It sucks, I know. But I would remove that entire kit and ship it back to whoever you bought it from and get all your money back if they wont make it right soon. Amazon can assist with this, even if you have to talk to them, which sucks cause the representatives first language won't be English.
 
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Novak Conversions Jeep Wrangler TJ engine mounts