How to replace a distributor the easy way

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I had to replace the distributor on my 97 4.0L over the weekend, and was a little surprised there wasn't a writeup that I could find. The process is technically covered in some of the oil pump replacement walkthroughs, because you'll need to remove/re-install the distributor to prime the pump. I couldn't find any of those write-ups either, so maybe they're on a different site. But we hate the other sites so I'll post one here. As usual, I wish I had taken more pictures. I'll be doing this on a friend's jeep in a couple of weeks, so I'll get more video as well.

I've called this walkthrough "the easy way" because most instructions you'll find include a lot of extra steps, which are absolutely not wrong but are also not always necessary. This primarily includes finding TDC before installing the new distributor. I presume everyone tells you to follow this process because it is more or less foolproof in terms of getting the distributor oriented correctly with respect to timing. But ultimately the only hard requirement is that the distributor be "timed" correctly with wherever the camshaft is in its cycle. Luckily the distributor tells you everything you need to know before you take it out.

Parts Required:
New distributor. I used an AutoZone brand Duralast Gold. The OEM one lasted 194k miles, something tells me this one won't go quite that far. You can likely re-use your old cap if you didn't get a new one. Mine also came with a new camshaft position sensor.

New distributor gasket: Felpro, AutoZone part # 70051

Some clean motor oil to lube up the new distributor shaft/gear.


Tools Required:
Phillips screw driver to remove the cap
Flat head screw driver to loosen the air intake clamp
Distributor wrench. I've had mine for years, worked on a Ford 289, Chevy 350, and now a Jeep 4.0L. I think it's probably 1/2". If you don't have a distributor wrench a crows foot will work, or a 1/2" box wrench.


Time Required:
30 minutes (less than the time it took me to write this up).


Steps:

1.
I removed the air intake tube so I had easier access to the distributor. I loosened the clamp at the air filter box and just rotated the pipe out of the way.

2. Unplug all the spark plug wires on the distributor cap, including the coil wire (the one in the center of the cap). If you don't trust your ability to google the firing order, then mark each location (not just the wires...I hope it's obvious why marking the wires won't help you later).

3. Unplug the camshaft position sensor plug that hangs down below the distributor.

4. With a Phillips screwdriver, loosen the two screws on the cap and lift the cap off the distributor.

5. Loosen the distributer hold down bolt located under the right side (that is, the side closer to the radiator). It is difficult to get to, and can even be hard to see. A distributor wrench is really handy, but you can probably do it with a box end wrench and some patience. A ratcheting wrench might work too. Remove the bolt and put it in a safe place. The distributor will not rotate with this bolt out, it just keeps it from working it's way UP as the motor runs.

Some people will make a point to mark the orientation of the distributor relative to the motor to help you with the overall alignment when you put it back in. I don't bother with this step, as our distributors don't rotate like they did back when the dizzy controlled the ignition timing. Mark it, don't mark it, whatever; so long as the hold down bolt goes through the arm/bracket you know you're aligned properly.

6. Get directly above the thing, and mark where the rotor is pointing. This is critical, as when we're done, the new distributor needs to be pointing in the same place. I say "critical," although you can clearly see my mark inside the yellow circle isn't exactly aligned with the rotor. I think there is a parallax effect going on, because when I looked at it with my own eyes, it looked much closer. Due to the way the gears mesh, it will be pretty obvious if you're off by one tooth. More on that when we install. Just do your best to mark where it is at before removal.

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7. From underneath, and being careful to not be in the way of the rotor, lift the distributor up & out of the engine. Because of the way the gears are cut, the rotor will rotate about 30 degrees counter clockwise, meaning that the rotor will no longer be pointing at your mark. I have no idea why I'm so out of breath while doing this. Best I can guess is that it was really hot in the garage? Or that I'm out of shape. It's probably both. Sorry for the portrait video.

Rotor rotating CCW as you pull it up:


8. Immediately mark the new position on the old distributor. It will be easy to bump out of position once it's out of the engine. It's not the end of the world if you lose this position, it just means a trial & error method to get the new one aligned correctly. More on the when we install.


Go fetch your new distributor & gasket.


9a.
Take the cap off your new distributor, and making sure the camshaft position sensor is seated well (check that the screw holes align), put a mark on the new distributor in the same place as your original mark on the old distributor (from step 6). We are marking where the final location should be, which is the same location as where the rotor was pointing when we started this process.

9b. Also mark the new distributor with the location identified in step 8. This is where we will point the rotor before we drop it in.

10. Dip the whole shaft in (preferably clean) motor oil, ensuring that the gear is well oiled. The camshaft itself should remain oiled which will in turn oil the distributor gear, so I don't know that this step is necessary but it was easy and pre-lubing is certainly not a bad thing.

11. Rotate the rotor to the mark made in step 9b.

What's that? You can't rotate the rotor on your new distributor? New dizzys sometimes (always?) come with a plastic pin that locks the rotor orientation to align with TDC. But if you aren't at TDC then that pin will prevent you from aligning properly. If you're the paranoid type, you may want to mark this orientation because there are TWO orientations that will allow the pin to fit back in should you decide you want to do that (you won't). The pin will fit in two different interior holes, one for 4.0 and a different one for the 2.5. Now that I think about it, I don't know if there is a way to tell by looking which alignment is which, so out of the box might be the 2.5L alignment. IDK. All the more reason to skip the TDC instructions.

12. Put the new gasket on the shaft, and hold it in place (it will want to freely slide back down the dizzy shaft.

13. Align the entire distributor such that the hold down arm/bracket is aligned with the bolt hole, and lower the distributor into the opening. You'll probably be off by a degree or two, but a simple wiggling of the entire contraption will usually allow it to start to seat. You'll know you're on the money when the rotor starts turning clockwise, although it can require a little bit more wiggling to get it to fully seat, with the hold down bracket flush with the engine block.. At this point the rotor should now be pointing directly at the mark you made in step 9a. The whole process should be the complete reverse of the video posted in step 7.

What's that? Your rotor isn't pointing at your mark? It's off by a noticeable amount? Here's what happened: your initial position was off just enough to cause your meshing to be off by one tooth. No problem. Pull the distributor back out & reset the position as per step 11. You may need to rotate it very slightly forward or backward to get the correct final alignment. It might take a few tries.

What's that? You can't get it to seat at all? Good chance you're well out of alignment, but no worries. Look at the bottom of your distributor shaft. Looks like a flat head screwdriver, right? Now shine a light down into the distributor hole in the engine. You'll see a slot that the end of the distributor needs to drop into. That's the oil pump, fyi. Get your rotor turned such that the "flat head screwdriver end" aligns with the slot in the oil pump.

14. Put the hold down bolt back in and tighten it down. 17 ft-lbs is the spec, but good luck getting a torque wrench on that bolt.

15. Reconnect the cam shaft position sensor wire.

16. Replace the cap & tighten both screws. This may depend on what brand component you use, but my distributor cap would only go on in one orientation.

17. Replace the air intake tube, tighten the clamp, and make sure any other hoses didn't get disconnected during the move.

18. Replace the spark plug wires according to the firing order, including the center coil wire. Note the subtle inclusion of the distributor cap screws on this diagram. I found another version of the firing order with the cap screws in a different location and it had #1 closer to where #5 is.

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19. Fire up your Jeep, and listen for the smooth sound of a purring four liter.

What's that? It sort of worked but literally backfired? Actually I have no idea if this is possible on an I6, but I have it happen on a V8 one time. What happened was I followed the long process, including finding TDC, only I found it on an exhaust stroke rather than a compression stroke so I was 180 degrees out of phase. I think this may be possible if you have your rotor pointing 180 degrees out of whack.

20. Miller time.
 
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Great write up!! My diz is in the garage ready to go in, so I'll definitely be coming back to refresh my memory. Thanks!!!
 
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Tip: a dab of grease will help hold the gasket on the bottom of the distributor while you're lining it up.

I suspect having it 180 out could produce the same results as on a V8 but it shouldn't be possible if you follow the sequence described.
 
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I had no idea the older ones didn't rotate, good write up. For #20 Bullshitkorner on youtube always says MFBT.

I didn't either until I did my oil pump a while back. I had no idea you didn't set the timing in the "old fashioned" way by rotating the dizzy. TBH, if the dizzy is fixed and the cam controls the rotation, I don't understand how the computer can control the ignition advance, but I don't guess it's relevant for this how-to.

BSK says a lot of things. ;)
 
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Tip: a dab of grease will help hold the gasket on the bottom of the distributor while you're lining it up.

I suspect having it 180 out could produce the same results as on a V8 but it shouldn't be possible if you follow the sequence described.

I could see somebody thinking to rotor was pointing at 12 when it was actually pointing at 6. That would do it, I think.
 
I could see somebody thinking to rotor was pointing at 12 when it was actually pointing at 6. That would do it, I think.

You're not wrong. I sometimes forget how the whole engine bay looked like an indeterminate blob of metal and plastic when I started doing this stuff, so misjudging the rotor isn't out of the realm of possibility given that a big chunk of the audience for this may never have owned a vehicle old enough to have a distributor. The next latest vehicle I remember owning with a distributor was a 1990 model.
 
About 12 years back I had a 66 Mustang where I replaced the OEM diz with a Pertronix unit. All the muscle car guys were doing it, and it looked like an easy job. I'm still a hack today, but back then I had way less skills. But how hard can it be? You pull it out, drop it in, good to go.

Narrator: it was very hard.

I couldn't get the new diz to seat for anything. Then I couldn't get the old one back in either. So there It sat for about 2 years after I lost interest. Eventually I googled just the right word combination and got it to seat flush in a matter of about 30 seconds. I had to bump the motor while applying downward pressure. Of course after all that time I had to break down and find TDC and set the diz per those instructions.....which is how I know it will backfire if you're 180 degrees out, which I had by virtue of being on an exhaust stroke rather than a compression stroke. But being on the wrong stroke is functionally the same thing as having the rotor pointing the opposite direction, which is why I called that one out specifically. Imagine the joy of having it actually fire, followed by the terror of knowing you have to take out a component it took you 2+ years to install. Thankfully it went in super easy after cycling the engine, and it fired right up.

So yeah, I've got a little PTSD around messing with distributors. Having found several ways to screw it up, I'm starting to feel somewhat confident I know how to fix it.
 
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I don't understand how the computer can control the ignition advance
The rotor is pointing the correct general direction for long enough there's plenty of time or degrees of rotation to change when you fire the coil to change the timing. Rotating the distributor on an older rig changes when the points break and that sets the timing, the rotor just needs to be generally pointing to the correct plug.
 
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The rotor is pointing the correct general direction for long enough there's plenty of time or degrees of rotation to change when you fire the coil to change the timing. Rotating the distributor on an older rig changes when the points break and that sets the timing, the rotor just needs to be generally pointing to the correct plug.

Cool, I mean, that's the only thing I could come up with in my head but I didn't know how much "tolerance" on the rotor position. Given that, I do wonder if you could have it off by one tooth and have it still work fine?
 
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Cool, I mean, that's the only thing I could come up with in my head but I didn't know how much "tolerance" on the rotor position. Given that, I do wonder if you could have it off by one tooth and have it still work fine?

I don't think so, the camshaft position sensor is under there.
 
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Put in the new cardone dist from rockauto.
Hard, long starts
Stalled within 1/8 mile and had to keep gas on it to not stall again
Backfired and stalled after 2500-3k rev in the driveway
HELP!! Am I 180 out? I did like the writeup
97 4.0 5 sp
 
If you’re 180 out I don’t think you could make it 1/8 of a mile without knowing something was very wrong. Maybe you’re a tooth or two off, and with the timing advance under load it’s pushed beyond what it can actually spark on? Just guessing here.
 
I'll double check. I spun it 180 and couldn't even start. spun it back. Swapped CPS from old dist and it keeps stalling. Seems like it would be impossible to be a tooth off since the shaft wouldn't engage all the way?
 
I've got spark to both ends of the wire from the coil to the dist, but now I have no start, just cranking. I can hear the pump prime when I turn the key
 
So, my journey today:
Put in the Cardone, ran rough, stalled. Had to keep on the gas to limp back home.
Tried several configurations of the new and old dist, cap, rotor and caps with it running like crap over and over.
Tried it switched 180, killed the cardone. The curved teeth pushed the shaft upwards which broke the flanged washer at the top.
More mixed configurations including putting the original back in (replacing because it was whining on startup - like me)
Now, after all sorts of chuggity chugs, rev revs, and some small backfires, I've got cranking only and no start at all. Any ideas?
I really appreciate the knowledge and willingness to help on this board!! Thanks
 
The no start or intermittent no start smells like a cam position sensor. It's weird that you can't get back to the old level of performance though. When you said it killed the Cardone, was there maybe more damage done? Like to the drive gear on the diz or down in the cam?
 
Seems like it would be impossible to be a tooth off since the shaft wouldn't engage all the way?

the oil pump is independent of the cam shaft (when the distributor is out) so you can definitely be off a tooth if the tab on the end of the distributor engages the oil pump and turns it as it's inserted.
 
the oil pump is independent of the cam shaft (when the distributor is out) so you can definitely be off a tooth if the tab on the end of the distributor engages the oil pump and turns it as it's inserted.

Thanks for that info, he had me wondering if my writeup was wrong about the importance of that step.

Remember, this writeup was for "the easy way." If you get crossways with it, you can always fail back to "the hard way" which involves finding TDC and going from there. I believe the FSM details that procedure.

EDIT: also you'll get more traction on troubleshooting with a thread in the main forum.
 
Either way. After 7 frustrating hours, I towed it to my mechanic. I did mention that the new dist (both) the cam position sensor plugs didn't seem as tight as what I removed. maybe more damage, but we'll see. if that dist was off 1 tooth, I can't see how it could turn the oil pump when it just hits. I actually made it 1 tooth off on purpose one of the 10 times I had it out and it just bumped to a stop not seated. We'll see what happens. I trust him, he's a good guy. The write up is great, I think I just have something else going on