I hate mechanic shops

Wish you lived closer to me. I would do it with your help for free cause you're going to school. But you might be wasting your time with school. Not very smart to pay for school, study, and try to build a Jeep at the same time. Just sayin! :cool:

I still would have gave you something for helping me out! Appreciate the offer maybe I might move to New Mexico haha.
 
My Dad taught me and my brothers everything he knew and it saved us plenty of money. You have to know what is above your pay grade and welding is above mine.

I wish I new how to weld. My dad also has thought me everything I know about cars. If it wasn’t for him I Probably wouldn’t know what a wrench was.
 
So guys I paid the man and my Jeep rides way better than before. It’s like a new Jeep to me. The 4” currie lift with the MC rocksport shocks ride smooth. Way better than my previous bilstein shocks I’m a happy camper. Can’t wait till order my SYE and drive shaft for I can hit the trails
 
So guys I paid the man and my Jeep rides way better than before. It’s like a new Jeep to me. The 4” currie lift with the MC rocksport shocks ride smooth. Way better than my previous bilstein shocks I’m a happy camper. Can’t wait till order my SYE and drive shaft for I can hit the trails

Good to hear. I'll be upgrading from a Teraflex Lift to the Savvy/Currie 4" later this year. But I think I'm going to run the Tuned Fox shocks that Savvy sells.
 
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Glad the jeep turned out OK, his rate is high but reasonable (for my area... In Canadian dollars, no idea about your area) however the hours spent seems high. 5h to weld on a track bar bracket? 3h to fix the rear upper shock mounts? What was wrong with em? If it's just a broken bolt and it's not his first time it should be an hour or so. Took me a while to figure out a good way to do it but once I knew it was fast. I'm not a professional fabricator but it seems like a lot of hours spent.


There must have been a time
when we could have said no.
 
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Glad the jeep turned out OK, his rate is high but reasonable (for my area... In Canadian dollars, no idea about your area) however the hours spent seems high. 5h to weld on a track bar bracket? 3h to fix the rear upper shock mounts? What was wrong with em? If it's just a broken bolt and it's not his first time it should be an hour or so. Took me a while to figure out a good way to do it but once I knew it was fast. I'm not a professional fabricator but it seems like a lot of hours spent.


There must have been a time
when we could have said no.

I agree with you. 5 hours for the rear track bar mount seems like a lot. He took 4 hours up front for the two lower control arm mounts and 3 hours for the upper passenger mount. I just found it fishy that he got both the front and the back close to $1,500.
 
I DON'T hate mechanics shops - they fix things I can't , don't want to , or don't need to even attempt.

They free up my time to make money or do other things .

Most of them are regular folks like all of us , trying to survive .

I own a small business ...if someone does a good job , in a timely fashion, they deserve a profit . Also , if you want a warranty , they need a profit to stay in business to perform that warranty.

Businesses aren't evil and most aren't the least bit crooked. If you have never been self employed , you can't fathom the energy it takes to deal with the public , employees, the government , the bank ,vendors , and service providers ...plus get the work done and make it all work out on Friday .

Signing up for open ended work is where people go wrong with mechanics shops , contractors , doctor's and all sorts of things...it's insane . You are saying ....here's my wallet , have at it.

Get in writing what you want done , what it will cost , any variables , and tell them you won't pay for work you don't authorize . They understand that language .

Also , if you want a cheap hobby , any 4 wheel drive made may not be what you want .

Tj's fall into a lot of categories-

They can be rock crawlers , mud buggies , commuter cars , hobby/toy vehicles , and pure recreational vehicles among other things. economy car they aren't .

At 12 to 22 years out of production , some are nearing antique vehicle status , some are pristine , some are rusted out junk , many have been completely molested , and everything in between .

If you want a nimble,agile , capable and versatile vehicle that is extremely fun , it's a TJ .

It will make you memories and friends . It will take you anywhere . It doesn't have to break you , but nobody rides for free.

I asked a guy at a fair once if a ride was free.. he said son, this ain't welfare , it's a pay fair.
 
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Here's the deal .

I DON'T hate mechanics shops - they fit things I can't , t.do t want to ,
Agreed. It's just frustrating when they quote one price and come back with a substantially higher price with no discernible reason.
 
Agreed. It's just frustrating when they quote one price and come back with a substantially higher price with no discernible reason.
It is . Sometimes the reason that happens is they don't do what you are asking enough to have proper job vision. A specialty off road shop may not be cheaper up front , but typically more accurate in price, diagnosis and execution.

Sometimes it's a ploy , leave it loose , and see what it cost to do it .

Also ,sometimes it's just hard to see how crappy something is until you get deeper into the vehicle , and you don't want to scare people off or price unnecessary work. The best shops face this .
 
For 1k ish you can buy a welder and the basic associated supplies... like someone on here said, "its all prep work". I would add that the welding is just time on the machine. Within a yr you will be able to do a fair job yourself, and with in 3 yrs you will laugh at yourself because it took you this long to have tried it. Its not "easy", but its also not hard. If you are like me, you will learn the biggest lessons from failers. Do yourself a favor and free yourself from needing shops. Watch some youtube vids... you will do fine.
Learning from your mistakes is fine, hopefully not a steering or suspension mistake you learn about at 60mph