Lift Help! BB vs Coils

[StG58]

I will vouch for Zone Offroad lifts. I have sold upwards of 250 of thier 3" and 4.25" combo lifts. Never a complaint (unusual I know, but true). Get the Hydros for a DD and if you plan on wheeling it a decent amount, go for the Nitros. While I was at it, I would sell a lot of adjustable front trackbars (no drilling a new hole on the axle side mount to recenter the axle), 3/4" front coil spacers to compensate for winch/HD bumper. Get a stabilizer while your at it if yours is the original or close to the total miles on your TJ. Just get the one that comes with the 3" kit or go to your local parts store. 90% of them are made by Tenneco anyway (Gabriel, Monroe, Zone, Rancho, factory OEM for the big three trucks and many more).

Allen

Is the 4.25" combo kit better than the 4" suspension only?

The Zone 4 1/4 combo and 33x12.50 tires are pretty much the standard around here. Works great, good price / performance and sturdy. Lots of things you add on later with no regrets.

 

[Rob F]

I have 32x11.50 BFG Mud TA's and I was thinking of the 4" suspension lift. What's the benefit of the 4.25" combo?

 

[Chris]

I have 32x11.50 BFG Mud TA's and I was thinking of the 4" suspension lift. What's the benefit of the 4.25" combo?

I'm going to let @AOR or @StG58 answer this one, since I actually don't know much about Zone (other than that they're good).

 

[Rob5589]

I have 32x11.50 BFG Mud TA's and I was thinking of the 4" suspension lift. What's the benefit of the 4.25" combo?

4" of suspension is going to need a sye, double cardan driveline, adjustable control arms, adjustable trackbars. The combo uses a combination of suspension and body to achieve the 4.25". It uses a mml to change the dl angle and a bracket for rear trackbar. An adj front trackbar would probably be a good idea with it, however.

 

[AOR]

Is the 4.25" combo kit better than the 4" suspension only?

I believe so. No need for SYE kit and CV rear shaft. Also, with the BL you now have the opportunity to run a tummy tuck for more break over clearance.

 

[Rob F]

I wish I had seen this earlier. I just ordered the suspension lift this morning. I'm really hoping I don't need to go the SYE route...

 

[Rob5589]

I wish I had seen this earlier. I just ordered the suspension lift this morning. I'm really hoping I don't need to go the SYE route...

4"? I would be surprised if you didn't have to lower the t/c quite a bit, at a minimum, to avoid DL vibration. The definitive way is a sye & drive line. Gotta pay to play, as the saying goes.

 

[Rob F]

Ya I figure that now. I guess I'll bite the bullet and buy it all ahead of installation. Oh well, so much for a budget!!! Thanks

 

[Rob F]

Ya I figure that now. I guess I'll bite the bullet and buy it all ahead of installation. Oh well, so much for a budget!!! Thanks

 

[Rob F]

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4" of suspension is going to need a sye, double cardan driveline, adjustable control arms, adjustable trackbars. The combo uses a combination of suspension and body to achieve the 4.25". It uses a mml to change the dl angle and a bracket for rear trackbar. An adj front trackbar would probably be a good idea with it, however.

Ok, sorry for beating this like a dead horse, but do I absolutely need to buy adjustable upper control arms now too? The kit comes with lowers, and it doesn't advise anywhere on Zone's site to change the uppers.

 

[Rob F]

I believe so. No need for SYE kit and CV rear shaft. Also, with the BL you now have the opportunity to run a tummy tuck for more break over clearance.

A question: Can I use a motor mount lift as well as the t-case drop? Or is it a better solution than than t-case drop? Something instead of... Would it still help with the 4" suspension kit?

 

[Rob5589]

Not sure if it would work or is even advisable. It would put a bunch of angle into the rear of the t/c. If you are going to do 4" of susp, you need to be prepared for all that comes with it.

 

[AOR]

Tcase drops with a MML is not the way to go. plus it is defeating the purpose of the 4" lift. Just do it right the first time.

 

[Rob F]

Tcase drops with a MML is not the way to go. plus it is defeating the purpose of the 4" lift. Just do it right the first time.

Thanks. I'm just getting a little confused as to what the right way is. I've always thought suspension is the best. If I need an SYE, then so be it. There is a lot of guys saying to use the combo lift, though. Am I right to think that suspension and SYE is the correct way?

 

[Chris]

Thanks. I'm just getting a little confused as to what the right way is. I've always thought suspension is the best. If I need an SYE, then so be it. There is a lot of guys saying to use the combo lift, though. Am I right to think that suspension and SYE is the correct way?

Suspension lift plus a SYE IS the way to go, no question about it. Later, if you want to tuck the transfer case, then you add a 1.25" body lift.

 

[AOR]

Suspension lift plus a SYE IS the way to go, no question about it. Later, if you want to tuck the transfer case, then you add a 1.25" body lift.

^^^^ This is correct. The 4.25" kit was designed for guys that wanted to fit 33s and didn't have a massive budget. It is really a good lift for what it costs. A lot of people don't realize how great a platform it is for the LCG build. Tummy tuck and highline fenders (with a little trim in the back) and you can do 37s with the right wheel Backspacing.

 

[Rob F]

Thanks guys. I have ordered the 4" suspension. Now, do I NEED adjustable control arms? Have also already ordered OEM uppers front and rear. Next I will order SYE and shaft. Adams Driveshaft any good?

 

[AOR]

Thanks guys. I have ordered the 4" suspension. Now, do I NEED adjustable control arms? Have also already ordered OEM uppers front and rear. Next I will order SYE and shaft. Adams Driveshaft any good?

Yes you should get adjustable arms on a 4" lift. Check out the Core 4x4 arms here. Three Tiers to choose from. Tier Two and Three use Currie Johnny Joints. These are are beefy.

 

[Chris]

Yes you should get adjustable arms on a 4" lift. Check out the Core 4x4 arms here. Three Tiers to choose from. Tier Two and Three use Currie Johnny Joints. These are are beefy.

I really like those, but my only gripe is that they don't have double adjustable uppers (which are very nice to have)... Unless I'm overlooking something?

 

[Rob F]

I really like those, but my only gripe is that they don't have double adjustable uppers (which are very nice to have)... Unless I'm overlooking something?

I emailed Zone and they said OEM is fine. Mine will be on pavement for awhile anyhow. I figure I can upgrade the uppers later. Am I right?