Locker with 4.56 thick cut gears?

[TJacked]

I’ve brought 4.56 gears with a thick cut rear for my Dana 44 in my TJ, the dif shop I’m getting them installed at has told me that I need a new carrier to install the numerically higher gear but I was under the impression thick cut gears could be installed in the standard lsd carrier, is this true?

If so main question I’m after what E-locker can I buy that will support thick cut 4.56 gears for my Dana 44 or will I need to buy another set of standard 4.56 gears for my 44?
Thanks

 

[jjvw]

What is the carrier break on the existing carrier?

 

[TJacked]

What is the carrier break on the existing carrier?

Not exactly sure but it came with 3.07 gears so I assume 3.07 to 3.73 but I’ve got thick cut 4.56 gears to go in which are thick cut so that should fit right?

 

[NashvilleTJ]

I’ve brought 4.56 gears with a thick cut rear for my Dana 44 in my TJ, the dif shop I’m getting them installed at has told me that I need a new carrier to install the numerically higher gear but I was under the impression thick cut gears could be installed in the standard lsd carrier, is this true?

If so main question I’m after what E-locker can I buy that will support thick cut 4.56 gears for my Dana 44 or will I need to buy another set of standard 4.56 gears for my 44?
Thanks

Hard to answer your question knowing nothing about your rig, but since you have the dana 44 are you running a Rubicon? If so, I believe it would have come from the factory with 4.10's and an e-locker, and would be the reason you don't need thick cut gears. I believe the carrier break is 3.73, but not sure.

Someone check me on this.

Edit: Disregard. Just saw your last post.

 

[hear]

Hard to answer your question knowing nothing about your rig, but since you have the dana 44 are you running a Rubicon? If so, I believe it would have come from the factory with 4.10's and an e-locker, and would be the reason you don't need thick cut gears. I believe the carrier break is 3.73, but not sure.

Someone check me on this.

The break on the Dana 44 is 3.73 & up. Everything I've read (and plan to do in the near future) is around the numerically smaller carrier working well with thick cut 4.56 gears. But maybe there are use cases where thick cut don't work even on the "smaller" carrier?

 

[Rickyd]

It is likely the shop just doesn't know about the availability of thick cut gears.

 

[Rickyd]

Not exactly sure but it came with 3.07 gears so I assume 3.07 to 3.73 but I’ve got thick cut 4.56 gears to go in which are thick cut so that should fit right?

Yes,unless ring gear bolts are the wrong size

 

[hear]

Yes,unless ring gear bolts are the wrong size

Do thick cut require longer bolts?

 

[OldBuzzard]

I'm no diff guy, but:
As far as I can tell, the Eaton E-locker is a carrier (will replace yours). It's available in two versions for the Dana 44, 30-spline: 19977-010 for 3.73 and numerically lower ratios, and 19969-010 for 3.92 and numerically higher ratios. So you can get one for thick or thin ring gears.

 

[jjvw]

Do thick cut require longer bolts?

No. The added thickness is in the ring gear, not the carrier flange.

 

[mrblaine]

Do thick cut require longer bolts?

They would if you bolted them through the teeth.

 

[hear]

They would if you bolted them through the teeth.

Hysterical.

Or maybe I was asking if the thicker gears required more thread engagement.

 

[mrblaine]

Hysterical.

Or maybe I was asking if the thicker gears required more thread engagement.

They may provide deeper threaded holes and longer bolts but they are not required. If the bolts for a normal pattern ring gear hold well enough to do the job, they will also work on a thicker gear. The thickness of the gear doesn't change the loads they see.

 

[Rickyd]

Do thick cut require longer bolts?

I haven't compared my rubi axles to standard gears? I was thinking of the bolt diameters possibly being different.

 

[jjvw]

...I was thinking of the bolt diameters possibly being different.

I haven't seen any consistency in the handful I have needed to pay attention to.