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Message from Gerald at Savvy Offroad
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It is now! I posted it as an update for people who care, not for those who want to bloviate over the this and that.
As far as people's opinion over the benefit of aluminum. Ounces equal pounds, but that's not why I want a Savvy bumper, at least not the main reason. I like the look of aluminum. The savvy design is perfect form and function for my needs. For the next 5 years I will be living in the ghetto third world shit hole swamp that is Houston. If it's outside, it rusts. Mostly, it's my fucking money, I spend it how I choose.
At the risk of being deemed stupid.- Keeping things lighter is easier to understand and appreciate if you've ever spent a year or several building up a rig and then one day take all the mods off to do a major clean up and reinstall or switch build direction with some new stuff. If at that point you take the rig for a drive, you will be astounded at just how much performance you've given up by how light and nimble the rig feels. The boiling frog syndrome is very real when it comes to building a rig and incrementalism is pretty sneaky.
You're talking a 100 pounds, I've driven TJ's that are pushing 5000 lbs and they are lumbering pigs. I've wheeled many times with those folks where it matters and they actually struggle to get over stuff that they really shouldn't. They break stuff easier and far more often than the lighter rigs do with the same equipment under the rig. The other thing overlooked by those that ignore weight is by paying attention to a lot of things that can be done lighter, that gives you the ability to carry a few extra things as cargo with a lower penalty. Make it light where it is easy as in pick some low hanging fruit and that gives you some leeway for other things and still keep the overall weight lower.
That was my design philosophy for Savvy. If I can do most of the stuff in lighter weight materials, then I don't need to fret nearly as much about adding a steel slider to the rock rails which is going to be heavy and make them little if any lighter than other options but the end result will be stronger, tougher, and far less likely to suffer or transfer damage to the tub. I can use the savings I made elsewhere to pay for the extra weight of the slider. The same is true for any build, if you keep it light where it is easy, then the overall is still less. Or to use your words, if you can pay attention and keep it lighter, then you don't have to ask her to get out and walk because you saved a 100 lbs. and now she gets to ride along.
Now, all of that goes out the window if you are one who just doesn't care and it doesn't matter at which point, just go have fun. You don't have to wheel where it matters and there is nary a single thing wrong with that. We all like what we like and there is never anything wrong with that either.
None of the above is a defense of anything because I don't defend things that are indefensible so I will never think poorly of you for not participating in something you don't like.
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I am a fan of the lighter is better thinking. My current front bumper is lighter with the winch than my old one without a winch.
That old bumper was a battleship.
My 99 came with "Body Armor" brand bumpers. It couldn't have been, but when I took it off I would have sworn it was solid 2x4 steel.
It might have been heavier with the separate winch mount than my Warn bumper+winch. Since the winch mounts directly I have to handle and mount them as a single unit.
The wall of steel bumper that came on my son’s TJR. Sold it for $100.
Probably $100 worth of scrap value in that thing!
If were just posting too-damn-big steel bumpers now, I will submit this thing that came on my ride. I actually did like the integrated winch mount, but this thing was sold in a hurry. Also had no provisions for lights.
Now I have a stock-cut-stubby bumper with a Savvy hoop. Bet the whole setup weighs half as much. I suggest this setup to anyone looking for a somewhat lightweight but strong front bumper.
Not sure its doing everything a Savvy front could be doing in the way of clearance but I'm also not a rock bouncer, I prefer running washes and bashing whoops. Build accordingly!
Now I have a stock-cut-stubby bumper with a Savvy hoop. Bet the whole setup weighs half as much. I suggest this setup to anyone looking for a somewhat lightweight but strong front bumper.
Not sure its doing everything a Savvy front could be doing in the way of clearance but I'm also not a rock bouncer, I prefer running washes and bashing whoops. Build accordingly!
The bumper that came with my Jeep I still have. Would give a fellow forum member a great deal on it.
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