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My quest for a 32RH pan drain that doesn't break the bank

Go to Lowe’s, back in the area where that have cement bags. They have a very large, deep pan for mixing cement. It works great to drain transmission fluid into. You’ll have to pour it into something afterwards but it’s plenty big enough to catch most of anything.

I’ve had a couple of them for a couple decades and it helps a lot.

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Soak your skid plate bolts with your favorite penetrant for a couple of days before you start. As you loosen each bolt, use a small prybar to keep pressure on the bolt. Hopefully the nutserts will not spin on you.

Might be a good time to order a new set and install them while the pan is dropped.
 
Go to Lowe’s, back in the area where that have cement bags. They have a very large, deep pan for mixing cement. It works great to drain transmission fluid into. You’ll have to pour it into something afterwards but it’s plenty big enough to catch most of anything.

I’ve had a couple of them for a couple decades and it helps a lot.

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I don't need another thing in my garage. Pan drain plug takes up no space and makes no mess. YMMV.
 
Great post considering the back order and cheaper price. Appreciate you doing the legwork.

I did my ATF not too long ago but I’ll be referring back to this thread when the time comes.

Say it with me everyone, “different strokes for different folks”.
 
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My motorhome has an Allison with both a drain plug and a spin on filter. Too bad I can't adapt the Allison to the TJ.
 
I missed that you had a plug. I thought you were dropping the whole pan.

That is the whole point, I don't want to have to drop the pan to drain the fluid, even if dropping the pan is the ultimate goal (i.e. filter change, valve body work, fix a leaking dipstick seal, shift selector seal, etc).
 
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The deep pan from summit came in, and I’ve been busy with other projects so I haven’t completed my trans work yet. So we get to compare it to my cobbled together DIY solution.

For starters, the 1” filter extension is identical to the one I bought separately, although mine is machined much more nicely. I do wonder if I need a longer extension to match the deeper pan… Although the more I think about it, the less necessary I believe it is, and here’s why: The dipstick is fixed in space above the pan. It doesn’t matter if the pan is 6’ deep, “full” on the dipstick is going to be at the same distance from the valve body no matter what. So the filter extension *cant* be to ensure fluid pickup under normal conditions, or else it would need an extension from the factory. So it is most likely there to push the filter deeper into the fluid to ensure pickup at more extreme angles. But given that we know that the distance from the top of the fluid and the filter is independent of the pan depth, it should mean that an even longer extension isn’t necessary, and probably the extension isn’t *necessary* at all. A longer extension would push it even deeper into the fluid, and this handle even more extreme angles. But it seems like the problem was pretty well solved with the 1” extension.

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The pans are also very similar. Same permiter shape, but about 7/8” deeper. This is probably right at the limit for what will fit under a TJ w/o a skid plate drop. The drain is also in a different location, and that may be somewhat problematic. The summit pan has the drain at the front, which is easy to get to. The 46RH pan has it all the way in the back, which will be covered by the skid. This means that you can’t drain the fluid w/o first dropping the skid. I didn’t realize this until just now, or else I wouldn’t have bothered with the essay on filter extensions. That drain location is probably gonna be a non-starter for me.

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Of course all this was predicated on the idea that the summit pan was never going to arrive. So now it’s just a labor of love, seeing how the other 3x & 4x transmission pans are built.
 
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The deep pan from summit came in, and I’ve been busy with other projects so I haven’t completed my trans work yet. So we get to compare it to my cobbled together DIY solution.

For starters, the 1” filter extension is identical to the one I bought separately, although mine is machined much more nicely. I do wonder if I need a longer extension to match the deeper pan… Although the more I think about it, the less necessary I believe it is, and here’s why: The dipstick is fixed in space above the pan. It doesn’t matter if the pan is 6’ deep, “full” on the dipstick is going to be at the same distance from the valve body no matter what. So the filter extension *cant* be to ensure fluid pickup under normal conditions, or else it would need an extension from the factory. So it is most likely there to push the filter deeper into the fluid to ensure pickup at more extreme angles. But given that we know that the distance from the top of the fluid and the filter is independent of the pan depth, it should mean that an even longer extension isn’t necessary, and probably the extension isn’t *necessary* at all. A longer extension would push it even deeper into the fluid, and this handle even more extreme angles. But it seems like the problem was pretty well solved with the 1” extension.

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The pans are also very similar. Same permiter shape, but about 7/8” deeper. This is probably right at the limit for what will fit under a TJ w/o a skid plate drop. The drain is also in a different location, and that may be somewhat problematic. The summit pan has the drain at the front, which is easy to get to. The summit pan has it all the way in the back, which will be covered by the skid. This means that you can’t drain the fluid w/o first dropping the skid. I didn’t realize this until just now, or else I wouldn’t have bothered with the essay on filter extensions. That drain location is probably gonna be a non-starter for me.

You said Summit push both times....😂

Which is the better pan in your opinion...
 
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neither, but there's not one in the TJ pan either that I recall. Or at least if there was one it's been long gone by the time I got into the pan.
 
neither, but there's not one in the TJ pan either that I recall. Or at least if there was one it's been long gone by the time I got into the pan.

My stock pan had the magnet missing, but it had a place for it...so I purchased a new magnet before reinstalling the stock pan.
I have now loosen all the skid plate bolts...so I plan to remove the skid plate and install the deep pan.
 
For those considering the RT pan from Summit, don't let the backorder scare you. Mine came in pretty quick. The only thing I would have done differently is had it directly shipped to Blaine to get a temp sensor bung brazed in.

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Summit says they have "more than 10 available" of the RT24001. Placed my order on Friday and got a tracking # an hour later (y)
 
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