My Review of the Vanco 16" Big Brake Kit

I was conscious of the stock brakes, not scared of them.

If your current braking is so poor that you cannot take your jeep to the mountains at all, perhaps there is an issue that should be addressed immediately even before you decide which upgrade package to purchase.

Better safe than roadkill.
 
I went with the 15" kit. I have 35s on procomp 69 15" wheels. It would be fun to do a side by side with a 16" kit but the 15" kit is fantastic. I would compare it to stopping in a small car vs the stock feeling like a large truck.
 
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Likewise if the bigger Super 16 or 17" kit is too much, simply swap out the pads for something less aggressive.
I really wish you would stop giving that advice and concentrate more on just getting the right size kit the first time.

Oh, let's buy something really effective and neuter the fuck out of it. NOT!
 
Would you recommend the rear disc conversion with or without the Set 10 bearing parts? 2001 TJ Dana 44 15” rims 110,000 miles

Also, since I have 15” rims can I use either 15” or 16” BBK or do I need to stick with 15” BBK? 33” tires

Prepping for TJFest2021!!!!
 
Would you recommend the rear disc conversion with or without the Set 10 bearing parts? 2001 TJ Dana 44 15” rims 110,000 miles

Neither. If you can't source them cheaper, get them. If you can, don't. If you do the conversion, you will need them. Get them somewhere.

Also, since I have 15” rims can I use either 15” or 16” BBK or do I need to stick with 15” BBK? 33” tires

Prepping for TJFest2021!!!!
Depends on backspacing and how the rim is shaped. One of the OEM rims won't even fit over the 15" kit without spacers. For 33's, save your money and just get the pads and rotors if yours need replacement. No need for the BBK.
 
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Just got home from a 400 mile road trip through the mountains today. These brakes perform AMAZING on the downhill degrades and totally transform the way the vehicle brakes. I think they leveled out around week 5 in terms of performance, however, that performance is stellar.

Every time I need to really get on the brakes I'm always smiling after doing so!
Stupid question but the Vanco 16” means we need to run 16” wheels with it ? First day of researching these
 
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Stupid question but the Vanco 16” means we need to run 16” wheels with it ? First day of researching these
The 16 means that it generally requires a 16" rim to clear the caliper. But, lots of folks run 15" rims with around 3.75" of back spacing and they generally clear the caliper. Steel 15" rims with less back spacing will generally clear the caliper. Mostly it depends on how the inside of the rim is shaped and the back spacing.
 
For what it's worth I have the 15" kit and it is more than enough for my 15" wheels and 35s.
 
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I emailed Blaine a while ago and gave him a complete description of my setup and included the fact that my street driving habits don't include hard braking at all. I plan ahead and mostly coast into a stoplight rather than the guys that race to the stoplight then have to slam on the brakes. When the light turns green we are sitting next to each other. He suggested that his big brake kit was not a good idea for my driving style so I'm not sure what to do and have done nothing to upgrade my brakes with 35's.
 
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I emailed Blaine a while ago and gave him a complete description of my setup and included the fact that my street driving habits don't include hard braking at all. I plan ahead and mostly coast into a stoplight rather than the guys that race to the stoplight then have to slam on the brakes. When the light turns green we are sitting next to each other. He suggested that his big brake kit was not a good idea for my driving style so I'm not sure what to do and have done nothing to upgrade my brakes with 35's.
Just get the pads I would assume.

I’ve become a maniac with braking since I started using the BBK years ago. It’s really awesome the way they brake.
 
I emailed Blaine a while ago and gave him a complete description of my setup and included the fact that my street driving habits don't include hard braking at all. I plan ahead and mostly coast into a stoplight rather than the guys that race to the stoplight then have to slam on the brakes. When the light turns green we are sitting next to each other. He suggested that his big brake kit was not a good idea for my driving style so I'm not sure what to do and have done nothing to upgrade my brakes with 35's.

I have Black Magic Brakes. They probably aren't the best choice for those who drive more like limo drivers than cabbies.

Learn to brake with more enthusiasm. Then Black Magic pads will be perfect. :cool:
 
I emailed Blaine a while ago and gave him a complete description of my setup and included the fact that my street driving habits don't include hard braking at all. I plan ahead and mostly coast into a stoplight rather than the guys that race to the stoplight then have to slam on the brakes. When the light turns green we are sitting next to each other. He suggested that his big brake kit was not a good idea for my driving style so I'm not sure what to do and have done nothing to upgrade my brakes with 35's.
I have a customer who against my advice put the Super 16" on with 33's. He had a hard time breaking it in and being local, I had him bring it to me. Checked over the install, it checked out fine. He even had us do a rear brake conversion to discs to solve his stopping problem. Took it out, broke it in, brakes were way more than you need to stop his rig. Explained that while he did not have drive it like a race car, waiting just a bit longer to apply the brakes at a stop would go a long way to keep them broken in. He made all the appropriate head noddings and noises indicative of understanding.

About 2 weeks later after a phone call, he brings it back because the brakes aren't working. We take it out, note he is correct, do a quick 5 stop break in, they are awesome again.

Go back and explain that while you don't have to drive it like a race car, waiting just a bit longer to apply the brakes at each stop will go a long way to keep them broken in. He makes all the same noises again and takes the rig home.

About 2 weeks later, another call, another visit, exact same results, brakes are sub par, quick and fast break in brings them right back up. I get him to take me for a drive. Extra long coasting stops with the pedal ever so gently applied. I explain that will never keep them broken in. He tells me his dad taught him how to drive 50 years ago and he isn't going to change or even try to.

Well sir, when we get back, I will remove the Super 16 and swap on a brand new 15" kit free of charge, no labor, nothing, just a straight no labor swap and I have a new TJ master on the shelf we can use.

Nope, I want the Super 16" because it is a bigger kit. Yes it is, that is part of problem and the way you drive, you will never keep it broken in because you refuse to even try. Someone is going to pull out in front of you and you won't be able to stop from hitting them and I want nothing to do with that.

My dad taught me how to drive 50 years ago and that isn't going to change. Alright, there is nothing I can do for you then, call me when there is.
 
I have a customer who against my advice put the Super 16" on with 33's. He had a hard time breaking it in and being local, I had him bring it to me. Checked over the install, it checked out fine. He even had us do a rear brake conversion to discs to solve his stopping problem. Took it out, broke it in, brakes were way more than you need to stop his rig. Explained that while he did not have drive it like a race car, waiting just a bit longer to apply the brakes at a stop would go a long way to keep them broken in. He made all the appropriate head noddings and noises indicative of understanding.

About 2 weeks later after a phone call, he brings it back because the brakes aren't working. We take it out, note he is correct, do a quick 5 stop break in, they are awesome again.

Go back and explain that while you don't have to drive it like a race car, waiting just a bit longer to apply the brakes at each stop will go a long way to keep them broken in. He makes all the same noises again and takes the rig home.

About 2 weeks later, another call, another visit, exact same results, brakes are sub par, quick and fast break in brings them right back up. I get him to take me for a drive. Extra long coasting stops with the pedal ever so gently applied. I explain that will never keep them broken in. He tells me his dad taught him how to drive 50 years ago and he isn't going to change or even try to.

Well sir, when we get back, I will remove the Super 16 and swap on a brand new 15" kit free of charge, no labor, nothing, just a straight no labor swap and I have a new TJ master on the shelf we can use.

Nope, I want the Super 16" because it is a bigger kit. Yes it is, that is part of problem and the way you drive, you will never keep it broken in because you refuse to even try. Someone is going to pull out in front of you and you won't be able to stop from hitting them and I want nothing to do with that.

My dad taught me how to drive 50 years ago and that isn't going to change. Alright, there is nothing I can do for you then, call me when there is.
I drive my vehicles like I stole them.

I enjoy my BMB’s.