Why are TJs so much money?

[Assforkr]

My wife cringes each time I parallel park my old Dodge truck in a place that she is absolutely certain will not accommodate something of its size. She also can't understand why I would "risk" pulling between two vehicles/buildings/whatever with mere inches of clearance on either side. I tell her the same thing, every time: "Know your vehicle". The issue you refer to with older cars is not an older car issue. It is a driver issue. If the driver knows their vehicle, they drive accordingly. I never drive my four wheel drum brake Rambler the same way I drive my four wheel disc brake Lincoln. They stop differently. I don't try to pull out into traffic with my 1.6 liter Mazda the same as I do my wife's XJ. They accelerate differently. A vehicle does not adapt to the driver. The driver adapts to the vehicle. Us old farts survived the old technology, and adapted to (and appreciate, to some extent) the new technology. But it doesn't seem that the younger drivers quite understand the difference until they drive beyond their vehicle's capabilities, or their own. Put a kid who's balling around town in his Evo or STi behind the wheel of a slow, 6 cylinder, drum braked Dodge Dart, and he'd probably hurt himself. You can't drive everything the same way.

"Know your vehicle"

I think you and I are barking up the same tree. We both acknowledge that you’ve got to know both your own limitations as well as that of the vehicle.

The point I made that started this tangent was that I presume that TJ numbers would keep decreasing as years progress both because of rust and because drivers have had minimal experience with a car without ABS. In order to know the effects of non ABS breaking systems you’d either have to do your research or approach the vehicle with caution. Neither of which are character traits of younger people such as myself, because we are drawn to the TJ for its adventurous and fun demeanor and all our previous cars have had ABS.

I’m not shitting on the TJ, I own one. I’m not shitting on younger drivers, I am one. I’m saying that we own a fun car desired by young people... don’t expect a lot of those TJs on the road in the next twenty years.

 

[Squatch]

I think you and I are barking up the same tree. We both acknowledge that you’ve got to know both your own limitations as well as that of the vehicle.

The point I made that started this tangent was that I presume that TJ numbers would keep decreasing as years progress both because of rust and because drivers have had minimal experience with a car without ABS. In order to know the effects of non ABS breaking systems you’d either have to do your research or approach the vehicle with caution. Neither of which are character traits of younger people such as myself, because we are drawn to the TJ for its adventurous and fun demeanor and all our previous cars have had ABS.

I’m not shitting on the TJ, I own one. I’m not shitting on younger drivers, I am one. I’m saying that we own a fun car desired by young people... don’t expect a lot of those TJs on the road in the next twenty years.

I didn't mean to come across so...whatever that was I was doing. LOL It does sound like we're both coming to the same conclusion, if via slightly different avenues. I wasn't dogging younger drivers. Well, that is, I didn't really mean to. I was young once, myself. At least, that's what they tell me.

 

[Boinked]

I was young once, myself. At least, that's what they tell me.

they do say the mind is the 2nd thing to go, do you remember the first?

 

[Ted05Rubi]

You and me both. I'm also a former Harley owner / rider, and you're dead on with this statement.

I actually enjoy driving the Jeep more than I did riding the Harley. Not by much, but just enough to make me like the Jeep more.

I agree. I owned a 2003 Indian Chief. Lotsa chrome on black, lowering kit, built engine to 105 ci (at 3500 miles due to poor engineering from the factory) with mild cam and Direct Drive Baker 6 Speed transmission. It Was fun to ride! But I still like my Rubicon better but in a different way. Kinda like comparing blondes vs brunettes once you get on em there both fun, just a little different! Sorry ladies, don't mean to offend!

 

[Squatch]

they do say the mind is the 2nd thing to go, do you remember the first?

I've forgotten.

What were we talking about...?

 

[Ted05Rubi]

I've forgotten.

What were we talking about...?

Point well taken!

 

[Fouledplugs]

I actually like the new JL, absolutely.
BUT have to admit there's something about manually rolling a window up and down with today's technology....refreshing.

Looking under the hood, i see all the sensors , looks vacant.

The TJ appears to be the last Jeep before a great leap in refinery, appealing.

4.0 while underpowered has superior longevity, again appealing.

A mint TJ brings a premium but justifiable IMO.

Best put. Wish the 4.0 made more power. It would make for a nice swap in a 2 door JL or JK. Imagine how cool that would be. And sound a lot better.