Yj hardtop on tj

[Turdworlder]

So we putted this yj or cj hardtop on my tj. Cutted on front a little bit. My question is do i need to cut more? According to youtube cj top on yj i need to cut more. Can someone post high def pics of oem hardtop connection with windshield frame from inside? I was riding it 140 kmh and it flew away all glasses beside rear one are safe. The rear glass left this deep dent on tailgate. Any ideas on how to repair it homebrew pdr way? Can i reach it from this hole /6pic/ inside tailgate?
Also i want to connect tailgate and tailglass and make it close/open together like those tlc prado tailgates, any ideas on how to do it? Also cutting with angle grinder is too uncomfortable. Can chinese dremel cut yj hardtop or atleas grind it? Its still on its way to me.

 

[Turdworlder]

I see that dent everyday because i open the tailgate almost everyday, it became a red sign to my eyes. If it was at hidden place i wouldnt pay attention.

 

[Turdworlder]

Like this tailgate using oem tailgate

 

[Turdworlder]

Like this tailgate using oem tailgate, i put oversized stuff on back, and need this kind of door for convenience.

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[Goatman]

I'm pretty sure the YJ hardtop is held in with screws the same as a CJ. The TJ has a completely different way of mounting. It has two large latches that clamp into the top above the windshield. The angle of the windshield is different also. The easiest solution may be to install a YJ windshield frame on the TJ and then attach the hardtop to that.
If I am misunderstanding your question could you be a bit more specific so I can try to get you the information you are looking for. I know the translation between languages can sometimes be a bit confusing.

 

[Goatman]

I'm pretty sure the YJ hardtop is held in with screws the same as a CJ. The TJ has a completely different way of mounting. It has two large latches that clamp into the top above the windshield. The angle of the windshield is different also. The easiest solution may be to install a YJ windshield frame on the TJ and then attach the hardtop to that.
If I am misunderstanding your question could you be a bit more specific so I can try to get you the information you are looking for. I know the translation between languages can sometimes be a bit confusing.

 

[Turdworlder]

I'm pretty sure the YJ hardtop is held in with screws the same as a CJ. The TJ has a completely different way of mounting. It has two large latches that clamp into the top above the windshield. The angle of the windshield is different also. The easiest solution may be to install a YJ windshield frame on the TJ and then attach the hardtop to that.
If I am misunderstanding your question could you be a bit more specific so I can try to get you the information you are looking for. I know the translation between languages can sometimes be a bit confusing.

Yes, sorry for my flooding, its my first registered forum.
I dont want to swap windshield. I just want to know if the cut is still necessary. I will tackle grow the meeting point once cutted enough and use those yj screws. Its humid here, like 96-98% humid if google doesnt lie, also alot of loud beated dump trucks, busses. If not those i would ride soft top. I just want to see how oem hardtop connects with windshield frame and those plastic frame which is on windshiled frame but on door sides.

 

[jscherb]

I'm pretty sure the YJ hardtop is held in with screws the same as a CJ. The TJ has a completely different way of mounting. It has two large latches that clamp into the top above the windshield. The angle of the windshield is different also. The easiest solution may be to install a YJ windshield frame on the TJ and then attach the hardtop to that.

A YJ windshield cannot be installed on a TJ because the bottom end of the TJ windshield frame is much thicker than the YJ windshield frame. They are not compatible.

BTW while it is true that the TJ windshield is sloped back more than the YJ/CJ windshields, the angle of the back of the windshield frame where it meets the front of the door frame is the same on the CJ, YJ and TJ. The difference in windshield angle is due to the thickness of the bottom of the TJ windshield frame, which moves the bottom of the glass further forward.

Gr8Tops sells latches that can be used to latch a YJ hardtop to a TJ windshield frame: https://gr8tops.com/shop/jeepmodels/wrangler-yj-2/cj-78-replacement-hardtop-latches

 

[Turdworlder]

The plastic is numbered as #20 here

 

[Turdworlder]

A YJ windshield cannot be installed on a TJ because the bottom end of the TJ windshield frame is much thicker than the YJ windshield frame. They are not compatible.

BTW while it is true that the TJ windshield is sloped back more than the YJ/CJ windshields, the angle of the back of the windshield frame where it meets the front of the door frame is the same on the CJ, YJ and TJ. The difference in windshield angle is due to the thickness of the bottom of the TJ windshield frame, which moves the bottom of the glass further forward.

Gr8Tops sells latches that can be used to latch a YJ hardtop to a TJ windshield frame: https://gr8tops.com/shop/jeepmodels/wrangler-yj-2/cj-78-replacement-hardtop-latches

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I wanted to cut it and re-grow with fiberglass or aluminium thus closing all the windnoise sources and look tj hardtop. I will cut it with excess. I get it that front is different from yj.

 

[Goatman]

So, did you get what information you were looking for, or are we not understanding exactly what you need to know?

 

[Turdworlder]

So, did you get what information you were looking for, or are we not understanding exactly what you need to know?

I will decide on process. Either plywood+fiberglass or aluminium with noise deadener. That dent i think i will tackle weld small metal rope and try to pull out. I knew that front is different on yj and tj thats why i will cut with excess. If everything goes ok i will post results.
The tailgate door is homemade by this guy i will try to copy him, timecode 0:56

 

[jscherb]

Like this tailgate using oem tailgate

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Since I'm the guy who designed the hardtop you pictured, I can give you a couple of points to consider...

1. It is difficult to attach a factory hardtop hatch to the tailgate so that it will be securely attached and will not be prone to breaking. You can't drill mounting holes in the factory glass because it is tempered glass and will shatter when drilled, so you'd have to use adhesive to secure a mounting solution to the glass. I designed the rear door in the picture so it attaches to the tailgate with stakes, and has a strong internal shell to provide enough rigidity to provide a good seal to the hardtop. Also the glass is surrounded by the door shell so it's not prone to breakage. Here's an inside view of the rear door and how it mounts...

2. Since the factory liftgate glass is wider than the tailgate, the factory hinges will prevent a factory liftgate attached to the tailgate from swinging open. Looking at the rear of the Jeep, the right side of the liftgate glass is to the right of the tailgate hinge pin - the result of this is when the tailgate is opened, the part of the liftgate that is to the right of the hinge pin will swing inwards when the tailgate swings outward and will prevent the tailgate from opening. A solution to this problem is the TJ HD Wide-Swing Hinges from MORryde (https://www.retrofitoffroad.com/sho...ryde-hd-tj-wrangler-tailgate-hinges-jp54-025/). I designed these hinges for MORryde, with two two goals in mine (besides being much stronger than the factory hinges)

- The hinge pin is positioned far enough to the right that a full-width rear upper door can open properly.

- By swinging wider, the hinges provide more room between the spare tire and the tail light when the tailgate is fully open, which means gear (like a Rotopax) can be mounted on the tailgate hinges without interference)

In this photo you can see the location of the hinge pins, they're to the right of the right edge of the liftgate glass:

At the same time that I did the design and mold work for the Safari Cab barn door pictured above, I did the design work for a fiberglass upper barn door for the TJ. It mounts to the tailgate the same way that the Safari Cab door does, and with the MORryde wide-swing hinges, it swings properly. I didn't make the molds for it though because I didn't think there would be enough market demand for it to make it worth the trouble.