I see that I have been summoned. I am organizing at my garage project and am just returning to my Jeep project. More on that later in my build thread.
I'm not sure if this would even work with stock fenders. One thing is for sure, I've never once seen a TJ with coilovers on stock width axles and stock fenders, so I'm not sure if there's something big I'm missing here.
There is no reason why COs wouldn't work with the stock fenders. It's all about where you place the travel (how much up and down travel). Why you probably haven't seen coilovers on otherwise stock Jeeps is because COs are a PAIN to set up well and odds are there has been other work done to justify using coilovers.
Coilovers are a solution to a problem. If you don't have that problem, you don't need coilovers (and you're better off without them).
It's like how you're better off without 44" tires. Sure it sounds cool to say that you have them, but they're stupid if you don't need them.
A 12" Fox 2.0 is 19.6" long compressed, 31.75" extended. That has to fit somewhere. How does a 12" travel coilover compare?
Axle width is a big consideration. Full bump might work, but I see the tires rubbing hard at flex. What about the rear? It is difficult to go beyond 12" of travel with the short driveshaft.
Extended and collapsed measurements aside, the big issue is axle with and fitment of the diameter of the coilover. In the front fitting the coilovers in is fairly easy, the rear is not.
With the deal I got on that Savvy mid-arm, I won't hate it at all!
Fortunately there's a number of other off-road shops around here with very good reputations. I found one called Hamm's Off-Road who builds some very crazy TJs and JKs. Their fab work looks excellent, and his prices are very fair.
I think he's going to be the one to install this mid-arm for me.
If you're concerned about doing it right, I'd focus on one of the shops Savvy suggests using for the install. It's a fairly straight forward kit after you've installed one but I'd rather not have just any old 4x4 shop do the work of it. The quality of their fab work may suffer even if they install it correctly.
Yeah, I'm going to remove that last post. I don't want that out there publicly right at the moment.
My personal opinion of this is that I respect Dave 100% in terms of knowledge and skill. However, he has zero clue whatsoever about how to run a business.
People like that can benefit from a manager who manages them, the business, and their time.
There's nothing wrong with that either. Some people just do better when they can put their skills to use and have someone else handle the management stuff. Nothing wrong with that at all!
I've dealt with less than a handful of well managed business in the Jeep world, including the most mentioned business on this forum which have some major issues of their own. I'd rather stay out of it, but sometimes it's just what you have to put up with to get what you want.
The big plus for coilovers is the ability to change the spring combination, this changing the ride to your liking. So will Genright exchange the springs at no cost to you? I just had this conversation with the shop working on my Jeep. At this point I’m just looking at outboarding because of the time and effort it would take to get the “right” feel for me. You’re much more knowledge than I so maybe it’s not as big of a deal for you. I just can’t see myself taking trips with the shop to keep adjusting the setup.
He also mentioned the problem with the fenders, driveshaft and the adjustments that would be needed there. And the limited amount gained without hacking up the Jeep or changing axles.
I’m waiting on a quote for outboarding and moving the spring perch. After talking to him and emailing Filthy Motors both thought Kings with remote reservoirs would be a great fit. And don’t for get the adjustment knob that can be added on.I’m planning on beating mine more than you’re and told both of them that. But coilovers are the end all that’s why I was looking too. Can’t upgrade after that.
Im assuming genright quoted you King coilovers?
Changing springs should be to ONLY get the correct ride height with COs. If you're changing springs to your liking you're doing things wrong.
I personally decided on Fox because of the guy who I'd trust to tune them (Wayne).
