New guy with questions about frame off restoration

[MangoTango]

That is an awesome color for a Jeep. Paint it yourself? DEERE

I did, thanks!

 

[Not_Invented_Here_]

Yeah I was gonna comment the same thing, dope color and neat third brake light. Thanks for the info both of ya

 

[Severo93]

I'll recommend against using that Eastwood internal frame coating, or any other type of hard paint like coating inside of your frame. If you can get the inside spotless that's one thing, but it sounds like that is not realistic for you. Clean out as much as possible, then use either Fluid Film or one of the several Cosmoline sprays available. Any hard coating, any, will trap at least some amount of corrosion between the inside metal and the hard coat allowing rust to go unchecked while all the time looking pretty in there. Using the Fluid Film will soak in and smother the rust blocking oxygen from the metal. And it can creep up and also into any small crevices to stop the rust. Plus you can see if there are any area that might need a heavier coating where you might have missed earlier. And you can apply more with ease. For the body and any exterior rust you can clean, spray a self etch primer and then paint over that. Those areas you will be able to see if the rust is blistering under the hard coating. But I would still use (and I do) the Fluid Film for everything underneath the Jeep. That allows me to use a long wand they sell online to get in the torque boxes and every little seam with the FF and block the rust. It's easy and much cheaper than using Eastwood products. I had tried them on a different vehicle and had extremely poor results even when cleaning to bare metal. Others claim good results. I only speak to my experience. FF on the axles. On the steering components. Inside the doors. Behind the gas tank. You get the idea.
I do recommend dropping the fuel tank to get any rust back there that can hide from you.

Thank you for the info. It's looking as though I'll be able to put her on jack stands for about a month or so in a decent garage. I'll assess in depth then. Here are some off hand pics in the meantime. Any input helps. I'm an amateur in the vehicle field. Thanks.

 

[taylormade73]

From the pics, the rust actually doesn't look that bad. The inside of the frame may tell another story, but I really think you'll be fine. Just follow the advice given on here.

 

[BuildBreakRepeat]

Make sure to tap on the metal with a hammer to ensure it’s all solid and not fully eaten. That looks mostly surface - couple of weeks of wire wheel time should make it shine

 

[Longhorn84]

Pressure wash, elbow grease, brushes, wire wheels, degreaser, some type of paint and rust encapsulator and time, more time, and a little more time, you can clean that up and feel much better about the rig. Don't get impatient and start ripping stuff apart like I always want to. When you say you don't have a garage, are you in an apartment or do you have a house where you just have to park outside? I think it's feasible that you could lift the body off the frame if you really wanted to go that route. Youtube redneck garage, he does all kinds of stuff in his driveway and never uses the garage except to store parts.

 

[F Troop]

Pressure wash, elbow grease, brushes, wire wheels, degreaser, some type of paint and rust encapsulator and time, more time, and a little more time, you can clean that up and feel much better about the rig. Don't get impatient and start ripping stuff apart like I always want to. When you say you don't have a garage, are you in an apartment or do you have a house where you just have to park outside? I think it's feasible that you could lift the body off the frame if you really wanted to go that route. Youtube redneck garage, he does all kinds of stuff in his driveway and never uses the garage except to store parts.

Don’t forget about a needle scaler and hammer chisel. These two tools will expedite the process.

 

[scottgraham]

Thank you for the info. It's looking as though I'll be able to put her on jack stands for about a month or so in a decent garage. I'll assess in depth then. Here are some off hand pics in the meantime. Any input helps. I'm an amateur in the vehicle field. Thanks.

Here is where the real crud holds up, and the rot starts. I drilled 1/2" drain holes at all four points like this:

 

[Severo93]

Got the Jeep in the garage, Thorough cleaning (or so I thought) with the pressure washer. I will be cleaning it again now that it's mostly exposed. I dropped the bumpers and the plastic fenders. On the back side of the wheel well where the fenders were mounted (the close up pictures that are blurry with my thumb) there is quite a bit of rust/corrosion. There seems to be an issue with the springs on my Jeep. They seem bent at awkward angles and not lining up with where they should. What can you guys tell me about my jeep from looking at it? I would like to keep it on 31 inch tires as it is now. Is 2 inch lift too much? When it comes to changing out the shocks, what do you guys recommend? body lift or suspension? Lots of work ahead, I know. Also, I plan on posting pictures of my progress/work. Is this an okay thread to do that in of is there a better spot? Thanks for any info. I'm learning something new with every wrench turn. Still finding out what I'm working with on this gal.

 

[Goatman]

Looks mostly like surface rust. Do your best to get everything to bare metal first. Far better than the 'scrape off loose rust and apply' directions. Try to get inside the frame ass good as possible. Fluid Film or a cosmoline product will help control the rust monster. It is something you will have to always pay attention to. Shocks are normally Rancho 5000x recommend. Worry about the rust first. You have a few days of work ahead of you there.

 

[Severo93]

Looks mostly like surface rust. Do your best to get everything to bare metal first. Far better than the 'scrape off loose rust and apply' directions. Try to get inside the frame ass good as possible. Fluid Film or a cosmoline product will help control the rust monster. It is something you will have to always pay attention to. Shocks are normally Rancho 5000x recommend. Worry about the rust first. You have a few days of work ahead of you there.

Yup! That's the plan. I'll be working on it later this week. Thanks.