Are Metalcloak control arms any good?

What about hats?
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All things being equal and when nothing matters, why not? No one cares about tech anymore.
Elitism keeps rearing its head.

There's a hell of lot more MC joints and arms out there than you imagine. This is from the PM's and texts I get from various members thanking me for speaking up.

It's like you and your KREW have driven them underground with your constant bashing and hatred.

Of the folks I've wheeled with, not one of us gave two shits how any rig was built. We just enjoyed the great outdoors and a common hobby.
 
Elitism keeps rearing its head.

There's a hell of lot more MC joints and arms out there than you imagine. This is from the PM's and texts I get from various members thanking me for speaking up.

It's like you and your KREW have driven them underground with your constant bashing and hatred.

Of the folks I've wheeled with, not one of us gave two shits how any rig was built. We just enjoyed the great outdoors and a common hobby.
Have at it. This is a tech forum. Explain where and why the two are, at the very least, equivalent.

You won't do that because you care more about holding hands around the campfire.

Bear in mind that I do have direct experience seeing the two joints perform over many years. It isn't my fault that you don't like my assessment.
 
Have at it. This is a tech forum. Explain where and why the two are, at the very least, equivalent.

You won't do that because you care more about holding hands around the campfire.

Bear in mind that I do have direct experience seeing the two joints perform over many years. It isn't my fault that you don't like my assessment.
And..... Elitism keeps rearing its head.

Keep beating your TJ to death and regaling us with your tales. It will give us more material for the campfire.
 
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MC here. Daily driver, weekend warrior with a lot of rocks. I took my joints apart around 40k and they looked great with grease still. Then the next 30k was downhill. Axle wrap, vibes and constant failures on centering yokes. $250 in new joints and I'm back to a decent set of arms.

They probably would serve the average user well (there is a key word in that sentence). From what I have seen, experienced and compared personally, the JJ is superior over MC, and that's coming from someone who is sporting new duroflex joints on all 16 ends

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Have at it. This is a tech forum. Explain where and why the two are, at the very least, equivalent.

You won't do that because you care more about holding hands around the campfire.

Bear in mind that I do have direct experience seeing the two joints perform over many years. It isn't my fault that you don't like my assessment.
I wonder if both my axles being aftermarket plays into why mine just plain work well. I've got as much or more flex than any other jeep I've wheeled with and my joints haven't shown any signs of failure.

This would be vs someone who has simply rotated axles for their lift.

Thinking about it more, having all the brackets corrected on the axle for any lift, has to improve performance.
 
I've got a full set of MC (there, I said it), and they've been incredibly boring. Had them for two years now, and after seeing all the people posting pictures of the joints failing, I panicked! Well, mine are still fine, no squeaks or tears, no drama. That being said, My suspension moves about 4.5/5 in each direction which is probably much less than the range of movement the failed joints are seeing.
They work great for my uses, I'm happy.
 
I've got a full set of MC (there, I said it), and they've been incredibly boring. Had them for two years now, and after seeing all the people posting pictures of the joints failing, I panicked! Well, mine are still fine, no squeaks or tears, no drama. That being said, My suspension moves about 4.5/5 in each direction which is probably much less than the range of movement the failed joints are seeing.
They work great for my uses, I'm happy.
Step one...admitting!
Welcome to the campfire.