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mrblaine said:
For those paying attention, there is something very unique that I find hilarious about Gerald's win at Glen Helen. I'll have to think of an appropriate prize to give away for anyone that knows what it is and the big hint is how he actually won.
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I hate to be the spoiler but I know...

They assembled all of the angry customers waiting for back ordered parts and tired of non existent customer service and gave them weapons and tube buggies built by Motobilt.

They were then instructed to chase Gerald and if someone could touch his bumper they got to beat him up and their order would ship the next day

Am I close?
 
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mrblaine said:
For those paying attention, there is something very unique that I find hilarious about Gerald's win at Glen Helen. I'll have to think of an appropriate prize to give away for anyone that knows what it is and the big hint is how he actually won.
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If I read that article in your post correctly, it came down to his tires outlasting all the others... but then, that was an article from the tire manufacturer...
 
Artsifrtsi said:
If I read that article in your post correctly, it came down to his tires outlasting all the others... but then, that was an article from the tire manufacturer...
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Not even close. Tires had zero to do with it. Glen Helen is a short course. Not a lot of tire attrition there.
 
Qualified 7th due to electrical issues, was in first by lap 3. Looks like 11 laps with fastest lap being lap 8 at 6:40.506.

that is all I could find with my lacking google skills.
 
mrblaine said:
For those paying attention, there is something very unique that I find hilarious about Gerald's win at Glen Helen. I'll have to think of an appropriate prize to give away for anyone that knows what it is and the big hint is how he actually won.
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Did he win in reverse? That would be hilarious and unique.
 
Maybe not fully related to this thread (I did just read through it) but I have a question as it relates to the LJ vs TJ and the suspension design.

It believe the LJ has 10" added in front of the rear wheel; however, the Jeep Engineers basically utilized the TJ rear suspension and just pushed everything 10" aft including the control arm brackets and kept the same length and angles on the control arms. It also appears that the Savvy Mid Arm follows this by installing basically (there is a 1.25" variation on lower, but minor) the same length control arms with just the rear bracket being 9" further back than on the TJ (due to the extended wheelbase). I believe the Savvy midarm was designed for the LJ but it also performs very well on the TJ.

So why does basically the same suspension provide adequate performance on both the LJ and TJ?

Both from the stock perspective and with the Savvy Mid Arm. I am assuming Jeep would have utilized engineers and calculations to come up with the fact that it could be left as-is (just pushed 10" aft) and the Savvy system was built based on experience and testing and they both come up with the same result. This is counterintuitive to the "online calculator" philosoph because of the 10" difference but apparently correct based on performance.
 
mrblaine said:
Not even close. Tires had zero to do with it. Glen Helen is a short course. Not a lot of tire attrition there.
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Found a different article on it... started 7th in class with a non-tuned management computer and basically stock suspension, finished the race 1st ahead of all competitors, 2nd place came in 15 minutes later despite being a modified vehicle.
 
Artsifrtsi said:
Found a different article on it... started 7th in class with a non-tuned management computer and basically stock suspension, finished the race 1st ahead of all competitors, 2nd place came in 15 minutes later despite being a modified vehicle.
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And the hilarity is?
 
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gasiorv said:
Maybe not fully related to this thread (I did just read through it) but I have a question as it relates to the LJ vs TJ and the suspension design.

It believe the LJ has 10" added in front of the rear wheel; however, the Jeep Engineers basically utilized the TJ rear suspension and just pushed everything 10" aft including the control arm brackets and kept the same length and angles on the control arms. It also appears that the Savvy Mid Arm follows this by installing basically (there is a 1.25" variation on lower, but minor) the same length control arms with just the rear bracket being 9" further back than on the TJ (due to the extended wheelbase). I believe the Savvy midarm was designed for the LJ but it also performs very well on the TJ.

So why does basically the same suspension provide adequate performance on both the LJ and TJ?

Both from the stock perspective and with the Savvy Mid Arm. I am assuming Jeep would have utilized engineers and calculations to come up with the fact that it could be left as-is (just pushed 10" aft) and the Savvy system was built based on experience and testing and they both come up with the same result. This is counterintuitive to the "online calculator" philosoph because of the 10" difference but apparently correct based on performance.
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Yes
 
Is that the one where he rolled it and was pulled across the line?
 
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