Armorlite available for TJs?

[John Cooper]

Curious first post.

If you felt it didn't fit right you should have contacted the company.

Bet they would have taken it back to.

 

[TX_Alpha]

The option to edit isn't available, so instead of being able to correct my initial post with a cooler head; the best I can do is leave this update in the hopes of being able to later modify the previous post with a more fair narrative (or just delete the original one out right if the mods would be so kind).

"Did you try contacting the company?" Yes, I emailed them the same concerns and awaiting a response. Even if they replaced the cargo area floor pan (which really is the only piece I had a real problem with), I'm not sure that would really be helpful. I apologize about the inflammatory remark about putting the whole thing in the trash, it's really this one piece that is amiss. The rest is pretty impressive.

Update: (which should be more like an edit to the original post).
The instructions say "in order to reduce the amount of cussing", and they were absolutely foreshadowing what was to come, because there was a LOT of it. The product itself seems pretty awesome, the main drawback I experienced was it appears they took a rather generic design for the TJ family and mode modifications for try and accommodate the LJ. Practically every panel required some degree of cutting or other modification and they sit in the vehicle "Good 'Nuff". The instructions aren't terrible, but again, they're rather generic, intending to cover a wide range of TJs, so be prepared to wing it at some point based on your scenario. For example, those with extra options, like hardtops & rear wipers, be prepare to make your own holes & relief cuts for things like wiring harnesses.

Once I finished the entire installation, my issues/frustrations really just boil down to the cargo floor area. That's where I started with installation, hence my extreme initial aggravation, but the rest was pretty much "as advertised". Over all, the general dimensions were close enough for gov't work, but the mold to the cargo pan doesn't match well. What I mean is that the templated cutouts for items like the tie down points and rear seat belt are off by the afore mentioned 1/2", but its the tiedowns that are the most mis-matched. What I mean is the cargo pan is a corrugated style with peaks & valleys, the tie downs are in the valleys, but the Armorlite Cargo base has two long (front to back) raised channels. If you intend to cover the tie downs as if they never existed, this works fine, but then you have these two raised ~5/8" hollow cavities running the length of the pan that will get depressed with anything sitting on them. Even if you cut out the tie downs in the correct spots, you have to push the Armorlite down to reveal the tie down point. If that was by design, I'm missing the intended benefit from it.

So a more level headed summary is that the material is pretty amazing, looks really good, and does a noticeable job at reducing sound in the cab space. But there's a need for design improvements to the cargo pan piece. As for value for the price, if you've got the money to spend, solid yes. If you're just doing the seating areas, its a no brainer, but if you're going to sound deadening, you really should do a full kit. However, for those on a budget, be prepared to roll up your sleeves make modifications and dry fit dry fit dry fit before ever putting the blade to the material. Which, btw, have lots of fresh blades handy, whatever this mystery material is, it dulls your blades quickly.

 

[Link]

This is really all over the place. First it’s the most horrible flooring ever and then it’s pretty awesome with a few things that annoy me. Hmmmmm

Honestly, I’m sure it’s not for everyone. My Jeep goes off road (doing Jeep things) so an easy to clean floor is the best for me. In my opinion, carpet is absolutely horrible in a Jeep. But, some people keep their Jeeps clean and pristine. While I don’t understand that, if that’s how you want to use your Jeep….do it. I don’t like ducks in my Jeep but if you like them, have fun with them.

So, I’ll revise my Armorlite recommendations….if you use your Jeep for off roading use, it’s the best flooring ever. If you want make your Jeep look pretty for driving around the mall and only paved roads, get a nice carpet and enjoy that.

 

[TX_Alpha]

Not so much "all over the place", though yes, my initial frustration during installation was very high and after finishing it, things weren't quite so bad. I even tried to edit my original post to provide a single final thoughts instead of the flip flop. I even mention the mods can feel free to delete my original comment, as my thoughts should have stayed in my head until I was done.

At no point do I focus on the vehicle being pretty n clean. If that were my purpose, then carpet would have been fine. My aim was reduction in road noise & heat transfer from the underside; which the product does. If I could edit/delete my original post to eliminate confusion, I would, and I'll spot check randomly to see if I can at some point, as it's really unfair and was done "in the heat of the moment".

 

[GATORB8]

Not so much "all over the place", though yes, my initial frustration during installation was very high and after finishing it, things weren't quite so bad. I even tried to edit my original post to provide a single final thoughts instead of the flip flop. I even mention the mods can feel free to delete my original comment, as my thoughts should have stayed in my head until I was done.

At no point do I focus on the vehicle being pretty n clean. If that were my purpose, then carpet would have been fine. My aim was reduction in road noise & heat transfer from the underside; which the product does. If I could edit/delete my original post to eliminate confusion, I would, and I'll spot check randomly to see if I can at some point, as it's really unfair and was done "in the heat of the moment".

Interesting, I installed mine last weekend and, while it took some cussing, it ended up lining up well. The front lip of the cargo area overhangs the middle section like it should to shingle down towards the drain, do you have it too far back?

I need to find some longer footman loops since they end up basically buried.

 

[Link]

Also, remove the seats for install. It’s been awhile since I installed it but I removed the seats and didn’t have any issues installing it. I could see it being very difficult if you don’t remove the seats….maybe even impossible…..I can’t remember

 

[GATORB8]

Also, remove the seats for install. It’s been awhile since I installed it but I removed the seats and didn’t have any issues installing it. I could see it being very difficult if you don’t remove the seats….maybe even impossible…..I can’t remember

Would be really hard if it is possible. Had to pull the console also.

You can see the cargo area overhang I mentioned here, too.

 

[AVGodZ]

I just received my full kit order for the 2005-2006 LJ, Rubicon unlimited, and if I could go back 4 days, I’d tell myself DONT DO IT.
The cargo sections do not mold correctly to the bed, are a 1/2” too long and the stamped openings are off by that same 1/2”. Using the cargo Matt make my factor mount points useless and the deadening material is less than half of that in the seating mats, severely limiting the sound/thermal dampening.
The front seating areas are not cut right for the Rubicon Unlimited. There are so many water intrusion points that you’re going to trap water between the mat and the metal.

I’ve had to gut the interior and take a knife to every panel. For the cost of the kit, I would not do this again or recommend to other TJ (LJ at least) owners. I’m sure those with JKs and JLs will absolutely love it. As for me? It’s horrid to look at, half effective as I had hoped, and I only left it in the Jeep because I couldn’t stomach putting $1k in the trash. Whatever Jeep they used for the mold, it wasn’t a

The option to edit isn't available, so instead of being able to correct my initial post with a cooler head; the best I can do is leave this update in the hopes of being able to later modify the previous post with a more fair narrative (or just delete the original one out right if the mods would be so kind).

"Did you try contacting the company?" Yes, I emailed them the same concerns and awaiting a response. Even if they replaced the cargo area floor pan (which really is the only piece I had a real problem with), I'm not sure that would really be helpful. I apologize about the inflammatory remark about putting the whole thing in the trash, it's really this one piece that is amiss. The rest is pretty impressive.

Update: (which should be more like an edit to the original post).
The instructions say "in order to reduce the amount of cussing", and they were absolutely foreshadowing what was to come, because there was a LOT of it. The product itself seems pretty awesome, the main drawback I experienced was it appears they took a rather generic design for the TJ family and mode modifications for try and accommodate the LJ. Practically every panel required some degree of cutting or other modification and they sit in the vehicle "Good 'Nuff". The instructions aren't terrible, but again, they're rather generic, intending to cover a wide range of TJs, so be prepared to wing it at some point based on your scenario. For example, those with extra options, like hardtops & rear wipers, be prepare to make your own holes & relief cuts for things like wiring harnesses.

Once I finished the entire installation, my issues/frustrations really just boil down to the cargo floor area. That's where I started with installation, hence my extreme initial aggravation, but the rest was pretty much "as advertised". Over all, the general dimensions were close enough for gov't work, but the mold to the cargo pan doesn't match well. What I mean is that the templated cutouts for items like the tie down points and rear seat belt are off by the afore mentioned 1/2", but its the tiedowns that are the most mis-matched. What I mean is the cargo pan is a corrugated style with peaks & valleys, the tie downs are in the valleys, but the Armorlite Cargo base has two long (front to back) raised channels. If you intend to cover the tie downs as if they never existed, this works fine, but then you have these two raised ~5/8" hollow cavities running the length of the pan that will get depressed with anything sitting on them. Even if you cut out the tie downs in the correct spots, you have to push the Armorlite down to reveal the tie down point. If that was by design, I'm missing the intended benefit from it.

So a more level headed summary is that the material is pretty amazing, looks really good, and does a noticeable job at reducing sound in the cab space. But there's a need for design improvements to the cargo pan piece. As for value for the price, if you've got the money to spend, solid yes. If you're just doing the seating areas, its a no brainer, but if you're going to sound deadening, you really should do a full kit. However, for those on a budget, be prepared to roll up your sleeves make modifications and dry fit dry fit dry fit before ever putting the blade to the material. Which, btw, have lots of fresh blades handy, whatever this mystery material is, it dulls your blades quickly.

I thought your write up was great! Their products are very pricey and should fit to match the price!