It's missing the RTT and a fridge.
There are lots of ways that folks try to define overland built rigs. Those folks don't understand what overlanding really is. If you want a clear definition, it helps to get the folks from other continents involved. Places like Africa and Australia where you leave Point A and there are no resources available for you to use for 100's of miles until you get to Point B. You have to be self sufficient for the duration. Your Alabama example would be perfect if you were able to do it without stopping along the way for any outside assistance and never touched pavement the whole way. That is overlanding.Thanks for the link. I'm trying to understand and grasp this new to me concept of "overlanding"..
So I take it that a Jeep must "look" a certain way to be considered an, "Overland Jeep?" How did you know from looking at the photos of this Jeep that it is not capable of overlanding?
Very fine line between a lot of the termonology listed in your link IMO.
Help me out here, if I took "a Jeep Wrangler TJ" from Alabama and drove it to the Rubicon trail, through the Rubicon Trail, and then back to Alabama..Would it then be considered an overland Jeep? Would that just be an Overland trip? Im camping out of it along the way and halfway through the Rubicon.
I ask bc there are multiple way to define an overland rig, the common pattern here is that it doesnt have "room" for supplies, like loads of supplies. one thing I notice with overland builds is to use a roof rack with lots of supplies or even everything on top....
Another point to study is in the fitment of the 14" coilovers. What are our best guesses for the up and down travels?
.... I'm pretty sure the GenRite built LJ could pull a trailer though. It has all the creature comforts to spend hours traveling. Add a snorkel and I'm not sure why this would not be the ultimate overland rig. Fuel, not a problem, tank in the trailer with electric pump. Obstacles, not a problem. ...
There are lots of ways that folks try to define overland built rigs. Those folks don't understand what overlanding really is. If you want a clear definition, it helps to get the folks from other continents involved. Places like Africa and Australia where you leave Point A and there are no resources available for you to use for 100's of miles until you get to Point B. You have to be self sufficient for the duration. Your Alabama example would be perfect if you were able to do it without stopping along the way for any outside assistance and never touched pavement the whole way. That is overlanding.
The reason that you can predict a rig's particular efficacy as being good at running overland is the very requirements of being able to do so produce a very particular set of parameters into a build and that produces a very common look amongst the ones built for that purpose.
You can call that rig whatever you like, if you hit the outback for a couple of weeks, you probably wouldn't call it an overlander for long without a support crew.
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Does an overland support trailer exist that can keep up being dragged behind a vehicle like that in the environment where it built for?
I don't think that a TJ or LJ is a good platform for an overlanding rig on it's own. I'm pretty sure the GenRite built LJ could pull a trailer though. It has all the creature comforts to spend hours traveling. Add a snorkel and I'm not sure why this would not be the ultimate overland rig. Fuel, not a problem, tank in the trailer with electric pump. Obstacles, not a problem. I don't know if the owner wants to overland. It's more likely it will travel cross country behind a toterhome. Oh, and more stinger.
Both "Overland Bound" & "Expedition Portal" have good sub forums on trailers bought, built, modified, etc. There's a bit of everything.
https://www.overlandbound.com/forums/forums/overland-trailers.93/
https://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/forums/expedition-trailers.42/
I did a quick scan through. Is there an example of an overland setup with a support trailer that can make a run from San Diego to Las Vegas via a classic Johnson Valley trail?
Maybe the criteria is unfair and unrealistic. In my silly fantasy, I don't want a home base to leave the trailer and RTT behind for the day. I want this rig to go in one side and come out the other. Then we head up to see Hoover Dam and find gas.
Not really, no, although a lot of well-built examples look similar. In my opinion, the basic concept of an overland vehicle is one that travels unsupported over roads-less-taken, with such journeys being the driving force behind any modifications that are done to the rig. Nebulous, yes, but accurate. Your Rubicon trail trip sounds overland-ish... and that didn't require a purpose-built rig, which is another important point: most overland trips don't need a purpose-built rig. Driving across Siberia...yes, that needs a rig built to do it; most of us don't do that, though. We take more reasonable trips that only require reasonable rigs. Porn Star up there isn't very reasonable, in that sense.
I don't think that a TJ or LJ is a good platform for an overlanding rig on it's own
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jjvw, you posted that you winched The Ledge on Poughkeepsie. I assume because of the weight of all the gear. I would think your Jeep would have no trouble if you didn't have camping gear.
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