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I was thiiiisssss close to hitting the button on the GR hilines. But in the end I decided to save a few bucks on the PS:unsure:

Its definitely a nice rig. I wouldnt call it an overlander but I'd drive the hell out of it.
 
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We seriously need to come up with a derogatory and catch name for that philosophy.

Also - and I'm not picking on the OP, here - that's about as far from an "overland" build as you can get. The tires are comically oversized, there's very little room for gear and storage, there's zero room for a spare tire (much less a second spare), the fuel capacity is insufficient for long-distance travel, and most of the work that's been done makes the vehicle extremely impractical for anything except what it does in the posted images. Does it look cool? Yes, it looks cool. Does it drive and wheel nicely? Probably. Is it an "overland" vehicle by any rational use of the term. Absolutely fucking not; in that arena, this thing is a complete joke.
Overland might be a stretch, I will give you that. I feel like this build go drive down the street (I will say this is where the “overland” stretch is) and hit any trail you point it at.

The tires may appear oversized in the photos, it’s also really low in comparison to a factory spec suspension with that size tire on it...not to mention its stretched out wheelbase wise quite a lot giving it a really low and wide stance, lowcog.

Spare? I think you over looked the brackets on the rear of the tub...👀

The gas tank is bigger than what comes from the factory in a TJ/LJ...it’s 1 gallon shy of the extended range tank they offer.

and most of the work that's been done makes the vehicle extremely impractical for anything except what it does in the posted images.
If you say so from looking at some photos of it from behind your keyboard. All this to say, there might be more to it than YOU see in these photos.
 
I'm pretty sure that I phrased it that way, yes...and the more I've reflected upon that conversation, the more accurate I find my analysis.

To address your question about the coilovers and the uptravel: the short answer is that I don't know, because the only pictures of any uptravel at the wheels are showing one side stuffed and the other dropped, so any estimate I'm making is an extrapolation based on articulation. It looks like the rear tire can stuff on one side or the other, and without track bar bind it would be nice to think that they can get a large part of that articulation in honest uptravel...but the front is another matter. It's clear that they can also stuff one tire or the other to the fenders there, as well, but I don't know how far they can go directly up: I can see the PSC box and the track bar hiding behind the drag link, and it looks like it's only a few inches above the diff cover. That's more than enough room for porn-star flex - I think my original phrase was "like a hooker on Valium" - but it doesn't leave much room for the entire axle to move upwards. Downwards obviously isn't a problem, though: in one shot, the passenger tire is easily down by 10"-ish inches.
I know this is all based off you looking at a few pictures, but are you looking at the same pictures posted...? what makes you believe the rear has a track bar?
 
Overland might be a stretch, I will give you that. I feel like this build go drive down the street (I will say this is where the “overland” stretch is) and hit any trail you point it at.

The tires may appear oversized in the photos, it’s also really low in comparison to a factory spec suspension with that size tire on it...not to mention its stretched out wheelbase wise quite a lot giving it a really low and wide stance, lowcog.

Spare? I think you over looked the brackets on the rear of the tub...👀

The gas tank is bigger than what comes from the factory in a TJ/LJ...it’s 1 gallon shy of the extended range tank they offer.


If you say so from looking at some photos of it from behind your keyboard. All this to say, there might be more to it than YOU see in these photos.

Can you point it somewhere and leave it unsupported for a week or two? Can it carry passengers and provisions for that amount of time? If not, it's no overlander.

I did overlook the spare provision - my mistake - but those tires are totally impractical for expedition travel, or much of anything past a trail...and I'm sure it does well on a trail. But: hitting short trails doesn't qualify it to do any more than that. I'm sure there's more to it than what I see - I've already said "I don't know" a couple of times - but what I do see says that it's a show truck, first and foremost.
 
To address your question about the coilovers and the uptravel: the short answer is that I don't know.
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Obviously, Im giving you a hard time. You're picking apart a build that prob only a select few of us (@Motobilt comes to mind) have any business picking apart, much less through 10 or so low-res photos of (not asking @Motobilt to pick this build apart. Just saying he actually builds rigs and parts that are on par with other big Jeep shops out in California.)
 
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I was thiiiisssss close to hitting the button on the GR hilines. But in the end I decided to save a few bucks on the PS:unsure:

Its definitely a nice rig. I wouldnt call it an overlander but I'd drive the hell out of it.
I’ve loved every piece of PS equipment I’ve had over the years on my various Jeeps. I want to get the PS hood vent for my LJ but can’t stand the thought of cutting my hood. What makes it even harder to stomach is that I feel like the LJ’s will be collector items one day. 🤷‍♂️
 
No worries; I'm all grown up and unless I don't like you, I take it all in good fun. Also, I know that 1) vivisecting anything sexy is a cardinal sin, and 2) I'm not even remotely qualified to do so. That said, I'm also very tired of blanket acceptance of sexy-looking rigs...and this one has more than a few warning signs.
 
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I’ve loved every piece of PS equipment I’ve had over the years on my various Jeeps. I want to get the PS hood vent for my LJ but can’t stand the thought of cutting my hood. What makes it even harder to stomach is that I feel like the LJ’s will be collector items one day. 🤷‍♂️
Buy a TJ/LJ hood off ebay to hack up. This gives you the ability to easily go back to your factory/stock hood someday.
 
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Buy a TJ/LJ hood off ebay to hack up. This gives you the ability to easily go back to your factory/stock hood someday.
Have def thought about it but haven’t found a factory silver one yet. I have access to quite a few scrap/ u pull it yards but there seem to be people who pay to get the first call when a rolled/wreck Jeep hits the lot. A local around here got tube fenders for all 4 corners and a Currie antirock for his TJ for $175 :eek:
 
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That's a nice Jeep, but it is NOT designed for overlanding. I'm building my LJ for overland which is why a 31.5 gallon fuel tank is on my build list. I've already worked out most of my storage issues with custom made parts. I need to create a build thread of my progress. For those who are not familiar with the overland concept, here's an informative link.

https://overlandjournal.com/what-is-overlanding/
 
That's a nice Jeep, but it is NOT designed for overlanding. I'm building my LJ for overland which is why a 31.5 gallon fuel tank is on my build list. I've already worked out most of my storage issues with custom made parts. I need to create a build thread of my progress. For those who are not familiar with the overland concept, here's an informative link.

https://overlandjournal.com/what-is-overlanding/

Thanks for the link. I'm trying to understand and grasp this new to me concept of "overlanding"..

So I take it that a Jeep must "look" a certain way to be considered an, "Overland Jeep?" How did you know from looking at the photos of this Jeep that it is not capable of overlanding?

Very fine line between a lot of the termonology listed in your link IMO.

Help me out here, if I took "a Jeep Wrangler TJ" from Alabama and drove it to the Rubicon trail, through the Rubicon Trail, and then back to Alabama..Would it then be considered an overland Jeep? Would that just be an Overland trip? Im camping out of it along the way and halfway through the Rubicon.

I ask bc there are multiple way to define an overland rig, the common pattern here is that it doesnt have "room" for supplies, like loads of supplies. one thing I notice with overland builds is to use a roof rack with lots of supplies or even everything on top....
 
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So I take it that a Jeep must "look" a certain way to be considered an, "Overland Jeep?"

Not really, no, although a lot of well-built examples look similar. In my opinion, the basic concept of an overland vehicle is one that travels unsupported over roads-less-taken, with such journeys being the driving force behind any modifications that are done to the rig. Nebulous, yes, but accurate. Your Rubicon trail trip sounds overland-ish... and that didn't require a purpose-built rig, which is another important point: most overland trips don't need a purpose-built rig. Driving across Siberia...yes, that needs a rig built to do it; most of us don't do that, though. We take more reasonable trips that only require reasonable rigs. Porn Star up there isn't very reasonable, in that sense. ;)