ORO SwayLOC questions

[andyj]

So, with countries throwing tariffs at each other nowadays, I thought of buying the ORO Swaylock before it gets prohibitively expensive. I thought about the air actuated one. However, before I throw money at it, I thought its better to ask you guys a few questions.

Number 1: I've got a 35mm lift and 235/85R16 (roughly 32 inch) wheels. How much more flex could I possibly expect? Or the other way round: does it even make sense to install a dual rate sway-bar with that little lift?

Number 2: There is the small ARB compressor in my TJ to actuate the lockers. Pressure-wise it's probably sufficient but the cylinder for the sway bar looks like it needed a fair amount of air. Can anyone shed some light on this?

 

[JMT]

So, with countries throwing tariffs at each other nowadays, I thought of buying the ORO Swaylock before it gets prohibitively expensive. I thought about the air actuated one. However, before I throw money at it, I thought its better to ask you guys a few questions.

Number 1: I've got a 35mm lift and 235/85R16 (roughly 32 inch) wheels. How much more flex could I possibly expect? Or the other way round: does it even make sense to install a dual rate sway-bar with that little lift?

Number 2: There is the small ARB compressor in my TJ to actuate the lockers. Pressure-wise it's probably sufficient but the cylinder for the sway bar looks like it needed a fair amount of air. Can anyone shed some light on this?

The ORO links have various sizes you can mix and match to get them the desired length for your lift.

No idea about the air since I have the manual. I’m standing there anyway, so flipping the lever is easy and I don’t have to worry about the complexities of an air actuated system.

A Swayloc or Antirock will give you all the useable flex.

 

[suicideking]

I definitely recommend the Swaylock over the antirock. I had the antirock and switched to the sway lock for better on road manners.

Don't bother with the air actuated one though. The manual takes about a second to flip and you can do it with one finger. You're going to be out of your Jeep to air down anyway, just flip the lever.

 

[inkedrose]

I have a manual swayloc as well, doesn't get much easier than flipping the lock. More tech, more problems.
Had quick release sway bars on a TJ with 2.5" lift and 31's... added significant travel when sway bars were disconnected. Get the Swayloc you'll be stoked

 

[andyj]

I assume it doesn't make a difference on which side the steering wheel is, does it?

 

[jjvw]

So, with countries throwing tariffs at each other nowadays, I thought of buying the ORO Swaylock before it gets prohibitively expensive. I thought about the air actuated one. However, before I throw money at it, I thought its better to ask you guys a few questions.

Number 1: I've got a 35mm lift and 235/85R16 (roughly 32 inch) wheels. How much more flex could I possibly expect? Or the other way round: does it even make sense to install a dual rate sway-bar with that little lift?

Number 2: There is the small ARB compressor in my TJ to actuate the lockers. Pressure-wise it's probably sufficient but the cylinder for the sway bar looks like it needed a fair amount of air. Can anyone shed some light on this?

The air actuator feels like an unnecessary luxury.

Articulation will be a non-issue. Mine has 12" shock travel up front and the SwayLoc does nothing to limit it in the off-road setting.

 

[inkedrose]

I assume it doesn't make a difference on which side the steering wheel is, does it?

I don't see why it would, runs through a hole in the frame crossmember. Only problem I've had was it coming a little loose at full flex and it hung up on a bolt of my steering box armor. Changed the bolt type and snugged back up hasn't been an issue.

 

[mrblaine]

Number 2: There is the small ARB compressor in my TJ to actuate the lockers. Pressure-wise it's probably sufficient but the cylinder for the sway bar looks like it needed a fair amount of air. Can anyone shed some light on this?

The small ARB compressor will shift it just fine. It is a small air cylinder that needs neutral on the latch to shift anyway and not a bunch of volume. Compressed air is a spring so it will hold there until enough bind on the latch is removed that it can move it. No different than flipping the lever.

 

[andyj]

Thank you for all your answers, that's great help! I almost pulled the trigger today, but then I thought I better double-check if it fits.
I do have 7/16in rims with a 19mm offset, that's a 4.75in backspacing. From what I can see, the tyres would almost certainly rub at max. steering angle. The stock sway-bar is actually bent in a little, but the ORO goes straight back from what I can see from the product photos. There are also bolts sticking out next to the round pipe where it is supposed to go in, further pushing the arms out.
What kind of setup have you guys? Would that be an issue?

 

[jjvw]

Thank you for all your answers, that's great help! I almost pulled the trigger today, but then I thought I better double-check if it fits.
I do have 7/16in rims with a 19mm offset, that's a 4.75in backspacing. From what I can see, the tyres would almost certainly rub at max. steering angle. The stock sway-bar is actually bent in a little, but the ORO goes straight back from what I can see from the product photos. There are also bolts sticking out next to the round pipe where it is supposed to go in, further pushing the arms out.
What kind of setup have you guys? Would that be an issue?

If the tire rubs at the further reaches of the suspension and steering travels, what does it matter?

 

[andyj]

If the tire rubs at the further reaches of the suspension and steering travels, what does it matter?

Nothing rubs right now and I simply want it that way. The ORO installation manual says the system can be damaged if the tyres touch the arms.
I didn't find any photos from the front of the car that show how much room there actually is on the internet.

 

[suicideking]

One issue you could have is bumper clearance. It will clear most stubby bumpers. I believe there are clearance issues with some though.

 

[jrfuda]

Use the "contact us" form on the offroadonly site and send them your questions. When I did this, Steve wrote back immediately and even went out to his TJ and took measurements and pictures for me to show me clearances, as I was having clearance issues with the OE sway bar and an aftermarket front hitch receiver I installed. (SwayLOC in my build thread)

Some notes from my install:

1. I have a little contact at full stuff when the stuffed side is turned all the way to the opposite side (for example, passenger side contacts when wheel is turned all the way to driver side). No experience myself, but I think I've read in the forums that full stuff and the steering wheel all the way to either side is not a likely scenario.

2. I had to widen the existing relief notches in my OE front bumper for clearance. They are not noticeable at all (picture at the bottom was before cleaning up and paint)

3. I bought the manual version, but I have the air-actuated conversion kit which I have not installed yet (I'm currently installing my on-board air system). Like everyone else said, it is probably not needed. I got it because I like gadgets and not so much for functionality. You can always add it on later.

 

[jscheu]

I second that. Steve is excellent to deal with. I purchased mine from a 3rd party supplier. Was missing a part. Contacted Steve, he had the missing part in the mail that day. That's customer service.

 

[andyj]

I was googling a lot yesterday and also looked at the antirock sway-bar. One page said, maximum backspacing is 4.5in. I found that a bit weird because it didn't say anything about the tire size. Anyway, I sent a message with my questions to ORO today.

 

[Bradsta]

I was googling a lot yesterday and also looked at the antirock sway-bar. One page said, maximum backspacing is 4.5in. I found that a bit weird because it didn't say anything about the tire size. Anyway, I sent a message with my questions to ORO today.

Hey mate. I'm in Adelaide as well. Who are you buying it through as I was looking at getting one.

 

[andyj]

Either quadratec or ORO directly. Steve told me that he sends a lot to Australia, so it works although the online shop doesn't support orders from outside US.

 

[Bradsta]

Either quadratec or ORO directly. Steve told me that he sends a lot to Australia, so it works although the online shop doesn't support orders from outside US.

Thanks. would be interested what the shipping quote is from oro when you get one.

 

[andyj]

Here is what I learned the last couple of days: the Swayloc will cause the tyres to rub if the TJ has only a small lift but larger tyres. I got photos of Steves setup and he has a large lift and 35s. Offset has a lot to do with it as well. Unfortunately we are not allowed to go further out than 25mm from the original offset in SA, so that would make it 13mm. There are no 16x7 in wheels with that offset available, so I got some with a 19mm offset.

So, no swayloc for me

I think the issue is, that it goes into the front cross member that is a lot lower than the location where the original sway-bar is mounted. That is the place just a little above the wheel hubs, unfortunately the place where the wheels are the widest. Pity that it didn't get designed for the original location. From what I can see it would probably work.

 

[Moglocker]

Here is what I learned the last couple of days: the Swayloc will cause the tyres to rub if the TJ has only a small lift but larger tyres. I got photos of Steves setup and he has a large lift and 35s. Offset has a lot to do with it as well. Unfortunately we are not allowed to go further out than 25mm from the original offset in SA, so that would make it 13mm. There are no 16x7 in wheels with that offset available, so I got some with a 19mm offset.

So, no swayloc for me

I think the issue is, that it goes into the front cross member that is a lot lower than the location where the original sway-bar is mounted. That is the place just a little above the wheel hubs, unfortunately the place where the wheels are the widest. Pity that it didn't get designed for the original location. From what I can see it would probably work.

Your not allowed?