Savvy mid-arm vs GenRight mid-arm?

[Chris]

Since I'm going to be doing a mid-arm lift soon, I was curious to know if anyone has any opinion (other than which company they like more) on the Savvy mid-arm versus the GenRight?

This is the GenRight:
https://genright.com/products/jeep-tj-lj-stage-1-suspension-package.html

And this is the Savvy:
https://savvyoffroad.com/product/sav-mau/

The GenRight one is more expensive, that's for sure. I'm strongly leaning towards Savvy, just not sure if I'm overlooking something.

 

[Boinked]

Look to me the GenRight has more options. Moving shock mounts. And such.

From reading the websites of each.

The savvy was built for racing applications

Savvy Mid Arm Kit is based on our race winning overall King of the Hammers Everyman Challenge LJ.

The GenRight was built for duel purpose

to convert your Jeep from a nice trail rig to an Awesome rig on and off the trail (dual sport)!

The GenRight is a hell of a lot more when you add the options. But if you are going to duel purpose and drive on road as much as off. It might be the way to go.

 

[tomtaylz]

Look to me the GenRight has more options. Moving shock mounts. And such.

From reading the websites of each.

The savvy was built for racing applications



The GenRight was built for duel purpose



The GenRight is a hell of a lot more when you add the options. But if you are going to duel purpose and drive on road as much as off. It might be the way to go.

ooof yeah you can make that GenRight quite pricey. Interested to follow along with this.

 

[FireJeep]

There is a huge price difference, the price listed for GenRight does not include the steel for the arms, ($700 from them additional), does not include shocks (for a mere $2200 you can have remote reservoir King Coil overs), if you want their shock mounts add some more $$$, the list goes on and on, some of which is cool to have other stuff though is necessary just to get their "kit" to work. I am sure it is seriously bad ass when it is all said and done but....... Savvy's kit includes aluminum links, plus you get axle trusses.....maybe it is (or not, I do not know) less high speed/cool than the genright???? But it is also half the price and it is complete enough to install and run...... not knowing a lot about the mid-arm stuff, I would go with the savvy, more bang for the buck, less choose this or that.....and mrblaine has his shit together........

 

[Chris]

The Savvy looks like the better option, no doubt.

The GenRight one allows you to purchase the outboard rear shock mounts, shocks, axle truss, and the steel for the control arms. But all that adds up really, really fast.

The Savvy one comes with everything I need, minus the outboard shock mounts, but that doesn't matter since Dave (the person who is installing them) has the outboard shock mounts in stock.

Maybe I'm missing something, I just don't see why the GenRight kit is so much more expensive, even without all the upgrades.

 

[FireJeep]

There is no doubt they like their stuff, I considered their fenders and what not at one point but Jerry had a really valid point, if the fenders are that strong the tub will give and that just exponentially increased the cost (and magnitude) of the repair if you run into something.....

Personally, I would stick with Savvy..... but it is your Jeep and your money

 

[Jorge Bolivar]

@Chris
I have always push back from Genright as they are never a complete solution plus too expensive when you can put a set like the one linked together for cheaper if like to shop around.

No want to said either, all will depend on the use you have for your TJ and the terrain will be playing.

I do hear great stuff form Savvy mid arms and Blaine support but on the TJ Unlimited side of the world.

Are you open to other systems?

 

[Jorge Bolivar]

I just don't see why the GenRight kit is so much more expensive, even without all the upgrades.

No feel any bad, I have been asking the same question for few years to the GR rep in my area. I does not even look at their website anymore.
Did you ever been a GenRight night in your area?
I have been in a few around the east, is curious how not to many fellas there no have GR on their rigs. This include me.

 

[bobthetj03]

Does GenRight have all the numbers matched up, like roll center, antisquat and all that? You install Savvy's kit like Savvy has intended and that is all worked out for you. No guess work, no calculations, etc.

 

[toximus]

GenRight in my experience has great customer service that stays on top of things until it's resolved. They also have been raising they prices to insane levels recently imho even for parts they're only reselling. The arms use weld in steel bungs. If I remember correctly the arms are longer than Savvy.

Savvy's mid-arm kit is very well thought out, uses every possible inch available to improve the design, and is not intended to be a complete "lift kit". Rather it is an element to be used for other builds. The geometry from my experience so far is great. It allows for outboarding shocks, changing to coilovers, antirock, etc but isn't a one stop shop for all of that. Personally I enjoy building and this mid-arm allows me to build my Jeep for my uses.

 

[toximus]

Does GenRight have all the numbers matched up, like roll center, antisquat and all that? You install Savvy's kit like Savvy has intended and that is all worked out for you. No guess work, no calculations, etc.

The fact is with either kit is that the numbers can't be calculated easily. You'd need to factor in bumpers, how full your gas tank is, how fat you are, your tire model, etc.

 

[Chris]

I'm leaning heavily towards the Savvy anyways, I was mostly just curious. I know Dave has a lot of experience installing the Savvy lift, and I've personally never had any issue with Savvy products.

I will say however, that GenRight tank I have is absolutely awesome. The quality on it is impressive!

 

[Boinked]

I'm leaning heavily towards the Savvy anyways, I was mostly just curious. I know Dave has a lot of experience installing the Savvy lift, and I've personally never had any issue with Savvy products.

I will say however, that GenRight tank I have is absolutely awesome. The quality on it is impressive!

I agree on GenRight quality. My tank skidplate is way more protection then i will ever need. I think you can blow up the jeep and the skid plate will be the only thing left.

 

[jjvw]

....

From reading the websites of each.

The savvy was built for racing applications



The GenRight was built for duel purpose



....

What are the differences between racing and dual purpose?

 

[Boinked]

What are the differences between racing and dual purpose?

Just the way my mind thinks. when you build something for racing comfort is not on the top of the list. not to say it would not be comfortable. Its just my opinion.

dual purpose thought about highway driving


i got all info from their own websites

 

[toximus]

Both companies are highly involved in racing. Both products have been inspired by racing. If I understand correctly, both have been seen time in races. If we're ONLY basing the kit on that, Savvy has the winning most car.

I think we need to look beyond that though. Racing has imposed limitations on builds that you do not need to conform to when building.

A car that handles well offroad tends to handle well onroad.

 

[jjvw]

...

A car that handles well offroad tends to handle well onroad.

X2. An early bit of similar advice that I never forgot is that if you build your Jeep to behave well on the road, it will take care of you off road.

 

[Jerry Bransford]

Where does anyone who knows WTF they're talking about say Savvy's mid-arm kit was only designed for racing? I know its designer, he invited me to drive the prototype, and neither then nor in any of the many discussions on the mid-arm by knowledgeable types has anyone claimed or inferred it was primarily designed as a race suspension. What I noticed while I was driving it was its unreal smooth street and trail ride, great street handling, and its ability to go tearing around offroad and climb uneven terrain like the proverbial bat out of Hell.

To repeat claims that Savvy's mid-arm is only good for racing is like claiming a Fender Stratocaster guitar is only good for country western music.

 

[jjvw]

I get to the grocery store no faster with the Savvy mid arms than I did without them, but the Jeep is perfectly comfortable getting there.

 

[StG58]

Correct me if I'm misinformed, but didn't a well respected member of this forum develop and design the Savvy midarm? I'm guessing that he would have a lot to say about both kits. Go to the source.