Which winch?

[AustinJeepTJ]

Help me decide! This is purely based on when I will receive this. The Smittybuilt x20 10k is 3-5 days out. I can get the Warn VR EVO 10-S today. Both with synthetic line. Is it worthwhile to wait 3-5 days to save $200 or is the Warn really worth it. Please vote. Poll open for 1 day.

Thank you!

 

[Mr. Bills]

Both are Chinese, but the Warn has the same warranty as their domestic products.

If write-in votes were allowed my vote would be for the Warn M8000 or M8000-S.

 

[AustinJeepTJ]

Both are Chinese, but the Warn has the same warranty as their domestic products.

If write-in votes were allowed my vote would be for the Warn M8000 or M8000-S.

Yes, write in votes will be considered. The M8000-s is third on my list but may mean some other upgrade will drop off.

 

[tworley]

Why 10k?

 

[AustinJeepTJ]

Why 10k?

I felt like, within my current budget and plan, adding capacity at this price point was doable given the cost.

 

[derekmac]

The only winches I've personally seen fail have been Warn VR ones. They were all used hard (and it was usually winter time when they failed), except one that failed on its second use, which was just him respooling the line after an easy pull. I guess lots of guys have good luck with them though...

 

[matkal]

I picked up a Warn XD9000i for $100 that I rebuilt and repainted. All in for $450 and some elbow grease(it needed a new rope, I got wire. And a new $200 motor)

That's always an option if you're not in a hurry and are mechanically inclined.

 

[AustinJeepTJ]

Thank you to all that have chimed in. I am probably going to head the M8000-s direction. The nudge from @Mr. Bills made me rethink a couple of things.

 

[D M]

Both are Chinese, but the Warn has the same warranty as their domestic products.

If write-in votes were allowed my vote would be for the Warn M8000 or M8000-S.

x2 on the m8000, thats what im going to get

 

[Mr. Bills]

Winch porn:

 

[AustinJeepTJ]

Winch porn:

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It's on. It works. I need to grind down and put the tow hook on. I also need to pull the whole thing off and attach the control pack ground to the right spot since I missed that wire in the instructions.

 

[mrblaine]

It's on. It works. I need to grind down and put the tow hook on. I also need to pull the whole thing off and attach the control pack ground to the right spot since I missed that wire in the instructions.

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Mr. Bills- Now do you understand what I was telling you about Warn having their head up their ass on line length?

 

[Mr. Bills]

Mr. Bills- Now do you understand what I was telling you about Warn having their head up their ass on line length?

I understood then.

Ironic that you should post - I was thinking of saving OP's photo to illustrate the difference between 100' of 3/8" synthetic winch rope on an M8000 and 85' as shown in the photo of mine. A third photo showing the result of too much winch rope on the drum would be a trifecta.

To @AustinJeepTJ ,

You really should consider cutting down your winch rope to 85'. If you don't, your winch is so full with the 100' currently on there that you risk bunching up the line enough to blow the winch apart on anything except a straight pull.

Also, unspool your line and re-spool it under tension to stretch it and so the wraps lie straight. The easy way is to hook the unspooled line to the recovery point on a jeep or other vehicle parked at a very slight incline, set the parking brake on your jeep so it drags, then power in the line slowly while attending to the wraps.

Here are two You Tube videos:

Also, also: Remove the factory chafe guard from your winch rope. You will thank me later.

 

[AustinJeepTJ]

I understood then.

Ironic that you should post - I was thinking of saving OP's photo to illustrate the difference between 100' of 3/8" synthetic winch rope on an M8000 and 85' as shown in the photo of mine. A third photo showing the result of too much winch rope on the drum would be a trifecta.

To @AustinJeepTJ ,

You really should consider cutting down your winch rope to 85'. If you don't, your winch is so full with the 100' currently on there that you risk bunching up the line enough to blow the winch apart on anything except a straight pull.

Also, unspool your line and re-spool it under tension to stretch it and so the wraps lie straight. The easy way is to hook the unspooled line to the recovery point on a jeep or other vehicle parked at a very slight incline, set the parking brake on your jeep so it drags, then power in the line slowly while attending to the wraps.

Here are two You Tube videos:

Also, also: Remove the factory chafe guard from your winch rope. You will thank me later.

Thanks. I pulled everything off and am reinstalling today. I missed the controller ground and wanted to run the power cables to the battery differently. After that, I will tension the line.

Thanks for the tips and the references. I will let you know how it goes and if I have questions about shortening the line.

 

[billiebob]

M8000 or M8000S are the go to Wrangler winches. Worth every penny.

 

[mrblaine]

I understood then.

Ironic that you should post - I was thinking of saving OP's photo to illustrate the difference between 100' of 3/8" synthetic winch rope on an M8000 and 85' as shown in the photo of mine. A third photo showing the result of too much winch rope on the drum would be a trifecta.

To @AustinJeepTJ ,

You really should consider cutting down your winch rope to 85'. If you don't, your winch is so full with the 100' currently on there that you risk bunching up the line enough to blow the winch apart on anything except a straight pull.

Also, unspool your line and re-spool it under tension to stretch it and so the wraps lie straight. The easy way is to hook the unspooled line to the recovery point on a jeep or other vehicle parked at a very slight incline, set the parking brake on your jeep so it drags, then power in the line slowly while attending to the wraps.

Here are two You Tube videos:

Also, also: Remove the factory chafe guard from your winch rope. You will thank me later.

There was a pic that popped up on POR a few years ago. The solenoids stuck with the line bunched up on one side and it basically exploded the winch. Literally in several pieces. I meant to snag it and when I went back to find it, I never could.

 

[astjp2]

I would hold out for a better quality used winch before buying a new one, I did the 8274 thing and I love it, the aussies and Brits have winches down compared to us yanks! Tim

 

[mrblaine]

I would hold out for a better quality used winch before buying a new one, I did the 8274 thing and I love it, the aussies and Brits have winches down compared to us yanks! Tim

If we did the same things they do, we would be leading in winches. Since we prefer to drive rather than winch, we don't.

 

[astjp2]

If we did the same things they do, we would be leading in winches. Since we prefer to drive rather than winch, we don't.

True, but some terrain in the states is similar to what they have there.

 

[mrblaine]

True, but some terrain in the states is similar to what they have there.

You can play in the mud here, you can't play on the rocks there.