Short Arm vs Mid Arm vs Long Arm

[TRE3TOP]

I don't intend to argue either. I am not bashing the antirock as a bad product. The change in handling is an objective thing, but whether that change is good or bad is subjective and better suited to another thread. I am simply matching A to B

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B


I'm not calling B a bad thing - I am pointing out the correlation between A and B to OP.

Yeah I’m not quite sure how this is that hard to understand. The anti rock system, by design, will have more body roll and sway than the factory sway bar. It really has nothing to do with your 18 years of experience. If anything you’ve become more accustomed to how the anti rock performs and less what the stock sway bar felt like.

 

[SvtLdr]

Could it be that the OP's definition of "good handling" differs somehow?

 

[mrblaine]

I'm not claiming anything and I'm not going to argue with you about my 18 years of good Antirock experience. If it caused handling problems I'd notice it on my twisty mountain roads.

There is a vast difference between a handling "problem" and "I don't like how much body roll I have". The AR while a very fine product which I myself do run, is not a good on road bar and as I showed you many years ago, with the right set up which you went for a test drive in, shocks can mitigate enough body roll that you don't even notice the sway bars are gone. You can't attribute the entirety of a rig's handling good or bad to the existence of the AR.

 

[Tob]

Could it be that the OP's definition of "good handling" differs somehow?

Right on. And he may get used to it, or may not. Which is exactly why I worded my post that way. I also listed his options if he eventually decides that he does not like it. I got used to mine, but it took a while to adjust.

 

[mrblaine]

Could it be that the OP's definition of "good handling" differs somehow?

Very much so.

 

[Jerry Bransford]

Could it be that the OP's definition of "good handling" differs somehow?

Probably. And I know what "good handling" is, I've owned enough cars with superb handling like my previous BMW, my wife's Lexus, etc. to know what superb handling is. I don't expect anything even close to that out of my TJ so maybe that's the crux of the issue... I don't expect or need anything like that in my TJ.

 

[mrblaine]

Probably. And I know what "good handling" is, I've owned enough cars with superb handling like my previous BMW, my wife's Lexus, etc. to know what superb handling is. I don't expect anything even close to that out of my TJ so maybe that's the crux of the issue... I don't expect or need anything like that in my TJ.

If you ever want to go for a ride in a lifted drift TJ, I can arrange it.

 

[Tob]

lifted drift TJ

You can't just mention this and not indulge us with pictures...

 

[mrblaine]

You can't just mention this and not indulge us with pictures...

Pick one, we set them all up that way.

 

[YonderNorthwest]

No, the "remedy" to your tipsy ride is a stiffer sway bar, which you traded for the antirock. Do you know what the purpose of the antirock is? And did you install it as a solution to a specific problem?

bingo

If you don't like it and cannot get acclimated to it, consider either reinstalling your factory sway bar, replacing your antirock with a dual rate sway bar such as the swayloc, or adjusting your antirock to the stiffest holes.

Yes I understand the purpose of an antirock. And yes, I understand that their are trade offs to running it instead of disocs or a swayloc. Just trying to seek advice here on how I can improve. Apologies for tilting you with my thread.

 

[Jerry Bransford]

As above, check your toe-in to see if it's good or not.

 

[YonderNorthwest]

There is a vast difference between a handling "problem" and "I don't like how much body roll I have". The AR while a very fine product which I myself do run, is not a good on road bar and as I showed you many years ago, with the right set up which you went for a test drive in, shocks can mitigate enough body roll that you don't even notice the sway bars are gone. You can't attribute the entirety of a rig's handling good or bad to the existence of the AR.

The increase in body roll around turns is not bothering me. It's the other handling characteristics that I mentioned above. But per you and Jerry it sounds like trying a different shock might be the next rock for me to turn over. Thanks, mrblaine

edit: And also the toe in

 

[Tob]

Apologies for tilting you with my thread

Sorry, I did not mean to come across as tilted.

 

[YonderNorthwest]

Sorry, I did not mean to come across as tilted.

Tone is notoriously difficult to impart across text. All good.

 

[Jerry Bransford]

As above, check your toe-in to see if it's good or not.

Just checking to see if my microphone is working or not.

 

[Jerry Bransford]

Jerry, this thread is not complete without the picture
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Shit that one even shows the fake eye patch. Classic.