@Dustdevil No updates on how that rain-x works eh?
Do me one last favor, if you will. Visit these three web pages. Read the descriptions, and please pay special attention to the text and to the country of origin. And tell me the Truck-lite LED headlights and the WHDZ LED headlights aren’t the same product, same manufacturer, same factory. And, above all else, please tell me you didn’t pay more than $46.99 for those nice Truck-lites…
The Chinese copies could just be knock offs of the truck light series lights. The Chinese are famous for doing knock off. I have a buddy who has a large Volkswagen manufacturing business and every time he would send his weatherstrip molds out to have parts manufactured they would start selling parts out the back door. I could very well see the factory taking the design and building a cheap copy and putting it on the web.
Possible, but much more likely they are identical lights, and some are simply private labeled for Truck-lite. Here’s why: Check out the two Amazon ads. Identical description wording. Both are made in China. On their own website, Truck-lite lists country of Origin as “ZZ”. Technically, that designates origin as “unknown”. But on the Trucklite channel on Amazon, they let the cat out of the bag. Trucklite claims slightly higher wattage, which can be a source of more heat. But it’s so slight, it’s very unlikely the difference would melt snow, except at very specific conditions. Much more likely this particular snow was warmer, wetter, and stuck easier. At this point, it’s not worthy of endless speculation, as my own personal choice of a solution will likely make the point moot.
I just have not seen the.complaints on the light pattern on the truck lights
I just have not seen the.complaints on the light pattern on the truck
Since they must be the same lights, maybe he got the TruckLites from the reject pile.
For the OE TruckLights maybe but my experience with the knock-offs was horrible. Everyone has different levels of acceptance.. for my needs the pattern was unacceptable.I just have not seen the.complaints on the light pattern on the truck lights
For the OE TruckLights maybe but my experience with the knock-offs was horrible. Everyone has different levels of acceptance.. for my needs the pattern was unacceptable.
Now THIS is a respectful and useful criticism. Well said.
So, turns out, there is a good study done on led lights for Jeeps. Doesn’t necessarily solve my particular issue, but certainly addresses the light pattern issue.
So, you knew all along you paid 375 bucks for the same ”cheap Chinese knock-offs”? Or did you just learn that because I pointed it out? Or, are you still pretending your lights are different because they’re “made in USA”, and supposedly better than that “cheap Chinese copy”?
And then you actually recommended that I take the very same path. Misery loves company, I guess. And you actually mocked.
So, now you’re going to hear what I think. Not sure you should be dispensing advice on Jeep forums. You don’t seem to spend much time doing your homework. And you’re full of crap. I found the information in, literally, 5 minutes of searching. I presume you could have done that, too. But you didn’t. You also didn’t bother to take me up on the offer that we simply act like adults, drop this, and move on. Instead, you just keep digging. So, here is my conclusion: your “advice” isn’t worth a runny crap. You need to save face, so you mock others you deem have made inferior choices, mostly to make yourself seem like some sort of authority on the topic. This time, you got exposed as a phony. Makes me wonder how many others you gave unsolicited bad advice. Had I heeded your advice, I would have wasted almost 400 bucks by stepping in the same pile of $#1+ you stepped in. If I wanted to blow a pile of money, I could buy heated LED lights, because apparently all major manufacturers of them have discovered the same thing I did 2 weeks ago… that LED lights, as a rule, don’t waste enough energy in radiated heat to keep the lens clear in certain conditions. I already knew that. Further, you dont seem to have run into similar conditions with your identical lights, and ignorantly presume your lights must be somehow special, purely because of the fact you got waylaid for 375 bucks by a headlight sales pitch.
Personally, I wouldn’t even heed your advice on how to sit right on a toilet seat after seeing this. Cheers!
Your 5 minutes of research consisted of comparing two product descriptions on Amazon, and because the descriptions were close to identical you concluded that they are the same product. Do you think a company sophisticated enough to create a knock off of the truck lights would not be able to replicate the marketing copy?
As others have said, if it makes you feel better to think the cheap knock offs are the same product, then good for you. They fooled you.
I have read many, many bad reviews of the knock off Truck Lights, and very, very few bad reviews of the actual Truck Lights. And generally, the only complaint on the Truck Lights is the cost.
Occam’s Razor.
At this point, I'm just enjoying your insistance that your Chinese counterfeits are the same thing as what doesn't ice over. Which must mean Arizona has really weird snow.
Your 5 minutes of research consisted of comparing two product descriptions on Amazon, and because the descriptions were close to identical you concluded that they are the same product. Do you think a company sophisticated enough to create a knock off of the truck lights would not be able to replicate the marketing copy?
As others have said, if it makes you feel better to think the cheap knock offs are the same product, then good for you. They fooled you.
I have read many, many bad reviews of the knock off Truck Lights, and very, very few bad reviews of the actual Truck Lights. And generally, the only complaint on the Truck Lights is the cost.
Occam’s Razor.
All this stuff has been shared on this forum long time ago.
I recommend that you do a bit more research into Chinese knockoffs in general and how they treat Intellectual Property. A lot of people simply don't care and want to justify it with the exact set of reasons you've already shared in this thread (made in the same factory, maybe truck lites are private label etc etc etc). If it makes you happy that you did not "waste" money on Trucklites, so be it. You aren't the first person and you won't be the last buying those Amazon specials, and nothing anyone says will matter.
For the OE TruckLights maybe but my experience with the knock-offs was horrible. Everyone has different levels of acceptance.. for my needs the pattern was unacceptable.
My employer manufactures nearly all of our products FOR the US market IN the US market. We are well aware of the tactics used by Chinese companies and the CCP. We deal with it every day. Ours is a worldwide company with revenues approximating $40bn USD. We are a target. And yet, we somehow find ways to compete. Our product typically sells at 15-35% above our competitors from China. Not 4X, and certainly not by private labeling their same product. That is a poor business decision, because more intelligent people eventually figure out the only thing that really changes is the packaging and the sales channel. The buyers who will pay 4X as much for the same product are the low information buyers and the gaslit buyers. If you really believed your statement, you would not defend a Chinese product with a US label. There is a reason even TL is offering heated lights. They don’t use the magic leds that melt snow.