FIFYI knew I shouldn't have put the tire size increase out there because some of the opinions are actually based on experience and knowledge and I don't want to listen to that crap.
FIFYI knew I shouldn't have put the tire size increase out there because some of the opinions are actually based on experience and knowledge and I don't want to listen to that crap.
FIFY
Is that all you ever need to hear?
You hear but you don't listen.![]()
No. Dont.
First, the guy knows alot. Runs a shop or something from what i gather. Probably is a wealth of quality info. If he didn't serve it with a side of arrogant bravado with supercilliouness as a garnish it would be easily digestible.
Second, I'll do my jeep my way. You all should support that.
Third, I clearly stated tire size is not what I'd like to focus on here.
We dont all drink the same kool-aid. Let me enjoy mine?
Enjoy your aluminum sliders.
If only I had said "I'll likely keep ehat i have"
Again, you started this in a thread asking about performance. I knew from the very start where you stood on the tires.
knows more than the rest of us combinedthe guy knows alot.
nothing butProbably is a wealth of quality info.
it's easily digestible to those who aren't wilfully ignorantIf he didn't serve it with a side of arrogant bravado with supercilliouness as a garnish it would be easily digestible.
we do but don't ask for the advice of those more experienced and informed (myself not included)I'll do my jeep my way. You all should support that.
again, you brought it into the discussionI clearly stated tire size is not what I'd like to focus on here.
you seem to prefer confirmation-bias flavorWe dont all drink the same kool-aid. Let me enjoy mine?
And from now on out I'll permanently ban myself from using the number 37 around here.
knows more than the rest of us combined
nothing but
it's easily digestible to those who aren't wilfully ignorant
we do but don't ask for the advice of those more experienced and informed (myself not included)
again, you brought it into the discussion
you seem to prefer confirmation-bias flavor
As stated, this ceased to be about performance. If you go to 37's on the stock axles, they need to clear the frame when you turn lock to lock at both ends of the tire. To make that happen, most folks decrease the back spacing on the wheels via new ones or wheel spacers. As you move the wheels outward, the decrease in back spacing diminishes good steering response very quickly. So, now your "performance" has not only gone down, you've paid for your lack of attention in favor of aesthetics over performance and introduced higher levels of forces that wear components faster.Thanks. You have the bigger dick. Is that all you ever need to hear?
The largest group of folks who feel that way do so because they know they are being dumb and don't like it. They still do it, they just don't like it when others point it out.If he didn't serve it with a side of arrogant bravado with supercilliouness as a garnish it would be easily digestible.
I 100% support you building your rig however you like. I will never be in favor of misconstruing compromised build philosophies as anything other than what they are.Second, I'll do my jeep my way. You all should support that.
You fucked that up.Third, I clearly stated tire size is not what I'd like to focus on here.
As long as we keep the bullshit out of it, I'm more than good.We dont all drink the same kool-aid. Let me enjoy mine?
As stated, this ceased to be about performance. If you go to 37's on the stock axles, they need to clear the frame when you turn lock to lock at both ends of the tire. To make that happen, most folks decrease the back spacing on the wheels via new ones or wheel spacers. As you move the wheels outward, the decrease in back spacing diminishes good steering response very quickly. So, now your "performance" has not only gone down, you've paid for your lack of attention in favor of aesthetics over performance and introduced higher levels of forces that wear components faster.
The rest of the aesthetic compromise results in an upset in the balance between wheelbase, belly height and tire size that generally results in far lesser capability offroad. It doesn't work as well there, it doesn't work as well on the street but performance be damned we got 37's, right?
This has nothing to do with the size of my wiener, but, thanks for noticing, it is still nice to hear once in awhile.
This is the sort of response I can get behind.
How will a 35x12.5 be different in steering rub than a 37x12.5? Maybe at the rear lower fender well but if that point is clearanced with the new fenders its a non issue.
It happens to be 2 inches smaller. Lockers make a way bigger difference then tire size, I know that for a fact and I've only been wheeling for a year. Both guys that I wheel with regularly have JKs with 37s and there's not much that I can't do since I have F/R lockers, and they only have a front or rear locker.
2 inch increase or decrease on a circle means a 1 inch change on either side. A 37 inch tire will provide 1 inch of ground clearance over a 35 inch tire.
The same the applies to rub on the fender well at the tub side. It will sit one inch closer to it, but that can be fixed with different fenders.
2 inch increase or decrease on a circle means a 1 inch change on either side. A 37 inch tire will provide 1 inch of ground clearance over a 35 inch tire.
The same the applies to rub on the fender well at the tub side. It will sit one inch closer to it, but that can be fixed with different fenders.
Similar concept*At work the plant ops guys put undersized tires on their golf carts. They look silly but maintenance response times are way down.
2 inch increase or decrease on a circle means a 1 inch change on either side. A 37 inch tire will provide 1 inch of ground clearance over a 35 inch tire.
The same the applies to rub on the fender well at the tub side. It will sit one inch closer to it, but that can be fixed with different fenders.