Steel vs Aluminum Swap

You hear but you don't listen. 🤫

No. Dont.

First, the guy knows alot. Runs a shop or something from what i gather. Probably is a wealth of quality info. If he didn't serve it with a side of arrogant bravado with supercilliouness as a garnish it would be easily digestible.

Second, I'll do my jeep my way. You all should support that.

Third, I clearly stated tire size is not what I'd like to focus on here.

We dont all drink the same kool-aid. Let me enjoy mine?
 
No. Dont.

First, the guy knows alot. Runs a shop or something from what i gather. Probably is a wealth of quality info. If he didn't serve it with a side of arrogant bravado with supercilliouness as a garnish it would be easily digestible.

Second, I'll do my jeep my way. You all should support that.

Third, I clearly stated tire size is not what I'd like to focus on here.

We dont all drink the same kool-aid. Let me enjoy mine?

Enjoy your aluminum sliders and the giant drop down tire carrier.
 
the guy knows alot.
knows more than the rest of us combined
Probably is a wealth of quality info.
nothing but
If he didn't serve it with a side of arrogant bravado with supercilliouness as a garnish it would be easily digestible.
it's easily digestible to those who aren't wilfully ignorant
I'll do my jeep my way. You all should support that.
we do but don't ask for the advice of those more experienced and informed (myself not included)
I clearly stated tire size is not what I'd like to focus on here.
again, you brought it into the discussion
We dont all drink the same kool-aid. Let me enjoy mine?
you seem to prefer confirmation-bias flavor
 
knows more than the rest of us combined

nothing but

it's easily digestible to those who aren't wilfully ignorant

we do but don't ask for the advice of those more experienced and informed (myself not included)

again, you brought it into the discussion

you seem to prefer confirmation-bias flavor

Calm down.
 
Thanks. You have the bigger dick. Is that all you ever need to hear?
As stated, this ceased to be about performance. If you go to 37's on the stock axles, they need to clear the frame when you turn lock to lock at both ends of the tire. To make that happen, most folks decrease the back spacing on the wheels via new ones or wheel spacers. As you move the wheels outward, the decrease in back spacing diminishes good steering response very quickly. So, now your "performance" has not only gone down, you've paid for your lack of attention in favor of aesthetics over performance and introduced higher levels of forces that wear components faster.

The rest of the aesthetic compromise results in an upset in the balance between wheelbase, belly height and tire size that generally results in far lesser capability offroad. It doesn't work as well there, it doesn't work as well on the street but performance be damned we got 37's, right?

This has nothing to do with the size of my wiener, but, thanks for noticing, it is still nice to hear once in awhile.
 
If he didn't serve it with a side of arrogant bravado with supercilliouness as a garnish it would be easily digestible.
The largest group of folks who feel that way do so because they know they are being dumb and don't like it. They still do it, they just don't like it when others point it out.
Second, I'll do my jeep my way. You all should support that.
I 100% support you building your rig however you like. I will never be in favor of misconstruing compromised build philosophies as anything other than what they are.
Third, I clearly stated tire size is not what I'd like to focus on here.
You fucked that up.
We dont all drink the same kool-aid. Let me enjoy mine?
As long as we keep the bullshit out of it, I'm more than good.
 
As stated, this ceased to be about performance. If you go to 37's on the stock axles, they need to clear the frame when you turn lock to lock at both ends of the tire. To make that happen, most folks decrease the back spacing on the wheels via new ones or wheel spacers. As you move the wheels outward, the decrease in back spacing diminishes good steering response very quickly. So, now your "performance" has not only gone down, you've paid for your lack of attention in favor of aesthetics over performance and introduced higher levels of forces that wear components faster.

The rest of the aesthetic compromise results in an upset in the balance between wheelbase, belly height and tire size that generally results in far lesser capability offroad. It doesn't work as well there, it doesn't work as well on the street but performance be damned we got 37's, right?

This has nothing to do with the size of my wiener, but, thanks for noticing, it is still nice to hear once in awhile.

This is the sort of response I can get behind.

How will a 35x12.5 be different in steering rub than a 37x12.5? Maybe at the rear lower fender well but if that point is clearanced with the new fenders its a non issue.
 
This is the sort of response I can get behind.

How will a 35x12.5 be different in steering rub than a 37x12.5? Maybe at the rear lower fender well but if that point is clearanced with the new fenders its a non issue.

It happens to be 2 inches smaller. Lockers make a way bigger difference then tire size, I know that for a fact and I've only been wheeling for a year. Both guys that I wheel with regularly have JKs with 37s and there's not much that I can't do since I have F/R lockers, and they only have a front or rear locker.
 
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It happens to be 2 inches smaller. Lockers make a way bigger difference then tire size, I know that for a fact and I've only been wheeling for a year. Both guys that I wheel with regularly have JKs with 37s and there's not much that I can't do since I have F/R lockers, and they only have a front or rear locker.

2 inch increase or decrease on a circle means a 1 inch change on either side. A 37 inch tire will provide 1 inch of ground clearance over a 35 inch tire.

The same the applies to rub on the fender well at the tub side. It will sit one inch closer to it, but that can be fixed with different fenders.
 
2 inch increase or decrease on a circle means a 1 inch change on either side. A 37 inch tire will provide 1 inch of ground clearance over a 35 inch tire.

The same the applies to rub on the fender well at the tub side. It will sit one inch closer to it, but that can be fixed with different fenders.

Reread what Blaine already wrote about 37s on factory width and wheelbase. It's all there. And it's the one you said you could get behind.
 
2 inch increase or decrease on a circle means a 1 inch change on either side. A 37 inch tire will provide 1 inch of ground clearance over a 35 inch tire.

The same the applies to rub on the fender well at the tub side. It will sit one inch closer to it, but that can be fixed with different fenders.

Great if you never plan to turn.
 
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At work the plant ops guys put undersized tires on their golf carts. They look silly but maintenance response times are way down.
Similar concept*
That's me at work but on the forklifts we have lol 😆 The warehouse guys always joke about my speed,they're stuck at a measly 5-6 mph while I blast past them going 9mph 😎 Saying "NEEEeeeeom" f1 car sounds* 😆

I can get there quicker than anyone when I gotta go fix something, Being a maintenance guy gives me cool privileges,Got access to the whole building,I can unlock forklifts,My favorite one being that all the departments invite me to get some food when either are doing good or a celebration of sorts occurs 🤙🏼they call me in or save me a plate 😁
 
2 inch increase or decrease on a circle means a 1 inch change on either side. A 37 inch tire will provide 1 inch of ground clearance over a 35 inch tire.

The same the applies to rub on the fender well at the tub side. It will sit one inch closer to it, but that can be fixed with different fenders.

Do you have lockers? One extra inch of ground clearance isn't gonna make a difference (except in very specific situations) if you aren't putting constant, equal power to both wheels.
 
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