Those were re-branded Bilstein 5100's. The valving might have been slightly different.FWIW, he's coming from a worn out set of Rubicon Express (monotube) shocks.
Those were re-branded Bilstein 5100's. The valving might have been slightly different.FWIW, he's coming from a worn out set of Rubicon Express (monotube) shocks.
What's so funny?I emailed KYB customer service yesterday about the stiffness of the shocks... I've copied and pasted my email and response, below:
Hello,
I recently installed a set of KYB Monomax shocks on my 2004 Jeep Wrangler. I used the 565096 / 565097 combo because I have a 4" lift. My concern is that they ride VERY stiff. I'm not getting very much compression out of the shock at all. I have placed a zip tie on the shock shaft, and for normal driving, I'm using 2" of shock travel or less. I do not have very many miles on them yet (less than 150), and I know shocks have a "break-in" period. So, I'm wondering if I need to put more miles on them, if they might be defective, or if they are simply too stiff? One other thing to note, When I jack the vehicle up, the body will lift with each stroke of the jack. It quickly settles back down, like it takes a while for the shock to adjust. I want to like these shocks, but if they aren't defective and they do, in fact, ride this stiff, I'm afraid I'll have to return them.
Thanks for your help
Mike
Hi Mike,
From your description, it sounds like the shocks are working as designed. MonoMax units are high performance shocks that are designed to work well when loaded down or off roading a lifted vehicle. If you are judging the shocks with no load in the vehicle and mostly on commuter type roads, they will feel firm.
They may need to settle on the vehicle: you can raise the vehicle off the ground, loosen the upper mounting points a little bit (do not fully remove), then set the vehicle fully on the ground and tighten them back up to OEM spec. This will help the shocks settle on the vehicle and may or may not soften the ride, but aside from that, shocks don’t typically break-in and get softer unless they are wearing out. It is unlikely the units you have are defective.
Regards,
Technical Support
KYB Americas Corporation
[email protected]
I have started the return process, based on this response. Next up on the list is the black max! It's for science....
I had Bilstein 5100's before I had the Rancho 5000X on my rig. The Rancho's were definitely softer from day 1. However, I noted that once you got to 45mph, there was no noticeable difference between the Bilstein 5100's and the Rancho 5000X. This was back in 2018 when I first noted this on the forum in a number of threads. Compared to the stock shocks on another TJ I own, the Rancho's are noticeably better. Compared to the KYB monotubes I have on another TJ, the Rancho's are noticeably better ride. I'm getting rid of the Rancho's on my rig and trying the Fox Savvy Valved shocks.Just to add my two cents on the Ranchos, I really can't see where everyone was raging about them. They are somewhat equivilent to my 10 year old Bilsteins, but a little squishier. I'm not a fan of running can down either. I put less than 10 miles on them and I put my Bilsteins back on until I outboard here soon. Two thumbs down from me and they will be for sale shortly.
The part at the end, "It's for science." -What's so funny?
That's what I tell my wife!The part at the end, "It's for science." -![]()
I don't know if impressed is quite the right word....I'm sure she's impressed.
I have tuned Fox I'm my shop waiting to go on...along with a dozen other things. The only thing I don't have is more time.I had Bilstein 5100's before I had the Rancho 5000X on my rig. The Rancho's were definitely softer from day 1. However, I noted that once you got to 45mph, there was no noticeable difference between the Bilstein 5100's and the Rancho 5000X. This was back in 2018 when I first noted this on the forum in a number of threads. Compared to the stock shocks on another TJ I own, the Rancho's are noticeably better. Compared to the KYB monotubes I have on another TJ, the Rancho's are noticeably better ride. I'm getting rid of the Rancho's on my rig and trying the Fox Savvy Valved shocks.
Time is a precious commodity. I'd help you out if I lived anywhere near.I have tuned Fox I'm my shop waiting to go on...along with a dozen other things. The only thing I don't have is more time.
Me too, if only to learn by practicing on @hosejockey61's rig before doing my own! LolTime is a precious commodity. I'd help you out if I lived anywhere near.
Sorry if this has already been said. No time to read all 13 pages.
I ordered all new 3 in lift Soft Springs for my 84 Toyota truck. I used Rancho Shocks. The ride was terrible. As it turns out, the shocks were overkill and ruined the ride.
I would go with the kyb.
My son's 73 Blazer had Rancho shocks. I switched them to Monroe Gasmatics. Way better ride.
Disclaimer: I don't know if the correct Rancho shocks were ever ordered...
Agree. Call the manufacturer of whatever shock you want to go with and discuss your application with them. Putting an overkill shock on your Jeep will ruin the ride. I don't have a recent set of new shocks for comparison (still factory on the LJ and it rides great) My lift kit shows up in August. Will let you know how it rides then.It’s all just a bunch of group think and so-called science experiments.![]()
Don't forget the main variable, the ass-O-owner meter, and everybody's ass feels differently.It’s all just a bunch of group think and so-called science experiments.![]()
.... So when a person actually runs the different shocks he's giving an opinion about still counts as group think?It’s all just a bunch of group think and so-called science experiments.![]()