Abbreviated Savvy mid-arm kit questions

One thing I have considered is to make a small roof rack that will fit the items I need. When I installed the corners, I added a bunch of tabs for future use. A pair of 1" tubes bent around the soft top with some .060" 3/4" square tube would do the job. But then where am I going to put the Roof Top Tent? Just kidding. the rack would put the weight much further forward.
 
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and/or a small trailer with a wheel lock would leave it all at the bottom of the hill, till you got done playing and are ready for that family picnic.

sorry to jest, but i couldn't fathom trying to carry that much gear.
 
Having once installed the same RE LA onto my previous TJ, even the standard Currie/Savvy short-arm would help on trails like you do at Calico, where I have wheeled many times. From what I have been told and read, even though I can weld and have installed several suspension lifts, installing the Savvy mid-arm requires expertise I don't have. Personally, since you live close to Blaine, I'd have him install it for you. Having driven Blaine's rig with its mid-arm, I'd already have had one installed into my TJ if I had the $$$. It provides a major (!) improvement in offroad abilities and it even has a better ride. To say I was amazed while driving it is an understatement.
So you know the pros/cons of the RE LA kit!! Not saying it is complete poo, just there are better. Good to hear that the mid arm kit is the one you would go with.

Enjoy your vacation and son's wedding!!
 
and/or a small trailer with a wheel lock would leave it all at the bottom of the hill, till you got done playing and are ready for that family picnic.

sorry to jest, but i couldn't fathom trying to carry that much gear.
Haha, I get it. It is no more than usual for us, picnic items basically and 2gl of gas. I leave the spare drivelines and axles in the truck.

Oh, I forgot this newish bag goes in the middle between the ice chest and waterjug.

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Why does the mid arm stop you from using a silly fuel tank?
The tank I am looking at is the Long Ranger 12 gallon auxiliary tank.
From what I understand it would interfere with the driver's side mid-arm bracket and the upper driver's control arm.

Note that these pictures are taken without a body lift and this tank attaches to the body, so it will be 1.25" higher in my application.

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In combination with my existing 24.5 gallon tank, this should give me 36.5 gallons. Or essentially it should extend my range about 156 miles without the use of gas cans. That means a range of about 416 miles (6 hours of freeway driving) before I hit the ~4.5 gallon reserve when the fuel light turns on.
 
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The tank I am looking at is the Long Ranger 12 gallon auxiliary tank.
From what I understand it would interfere with the driver's side mid-arm bracket and the upper driver's control arm.

Note that these pictures are taken without a body lift and this tank attaches to the body, so it will be 1.25" higher in my application.

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In combination with my existing 24.5 gallon tank, this should give me 36.5 gallons. Or essentially it should extend my range about 156 miles without the use of gas cans. That means a range of about 416 miles (6 hours of freeway driving) before I hit the ~4.5 gallon reserve when the fuel light turns on.
That tank won't fit. A decent muffler barely fits.
 
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The problem isn’t just the scale weight of what you’re hanging on there. There’s too much leverage hanging out that far in the rear. If you have to keep the family supplies, can you relocate them inside the cab somewhere?
 
That tank won't fit. A decent muffler barely fits.
With the mid-arm? Or at all?

I assumed it wouldn't fit with a mid-arm in the rear. My original question was asking would there be any point to putting in a front mid-arm with stock rear suspension versus stock all-around.

I'm guessing it's not worth it but it was something I thought I'd ask
 
With the mid-arm? Or at all?

I assumed it wouldn't fit with a mid-arm in the rear. My original question was asking would there be any point to putting in a front mid-arm with stock rear suspension versus stock all-around.
With the mid arm.

The value of the Savvy front mid arm is really only to reduce jacking at longer shock travels and to maintain caster throughout that travel. The existing RE front long arm only accomplishes half of that, assuming that half is even a problem to be addressed.
 
The problem isn’t just the scale weight of what you’re hanging on there. There’s too much leverage hanging out that far in the rear. If you have to keep the family supplies, can you relocate them inside the cab somewhere?
One thing I know after removing about 200lbs of weight from the rear is that alone changed how the Jeep behaved, for the better.

One other thing I know is that back when I thought I needed gas cans and a way to carry them, it didn't take me long to realize that in order use my gas cans I needed to plan routes to avoid gas stations which often meant driving past gas stations so I could use my spare gas from the previous gas station.

How close are the nearest gas stations to Big Bear and Calico?
 
One thing I know after removing about 200lbs of weight from the rear is that alone changed how the Jeep behaved, for the better.

One other thing I know is that back when I thought I needed gas cans and a way to carry them, it didn't take me long to realize that in order use my gas cans I needed to plan routes to avoid gas stations which often meant driving past gas stations so I could use my spare gas from the previous gas station.

How close are the nearest gas stations to Big Bear and Calico?
If you and I were running a trail together and you punctured your tank, I would happily give the two gallons out of my spare can. AFTER you fixed or plugged the puncture of course.
 
Less if you can compel the next rig through to give you some gas.
No need if you just make sure you either have extra gas back at camp or you make sure to have a half-tank of gas when you start driving either location. I stop at the ARCO station before getting to the trails but I only fill it to half-way so I'm not carrying so much weight. :)
 
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I can easily do it with a small ball peen and a screwdriver, even in my driveway. That is the easiest way I think.

Oddly enough I think my tank is plastic. I could probably use a stick to get a good bleed out.
You can't puncture any aftermarket gas tank skidplate with a screwdriver and hammer, and you can't puncture even the OE skidplate with that if it's newer than around 2000.

And no, we never wheel alone. Too much bad shit can happen when wheeling alone.
 
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You can't puncture any aftermarket gas tank skidplate with a screwdriver and hammer, and you can't puncture even the OE skidplate with that if it's newer than around 2000.
Can I try on yours? I would put a $50 down that I could in under a minute.

Seriously, Things happen to me where it is best I have fluids. I had a log go up and over the factory skid on a 88 chevy 2500 and put a 3" rip in the middle of the tank. The weight of the truck flexed it like a rainbow. The truck in front of kicked it up just enough for me to feed to the tank.