Beadlock wheels can add 15+ lbs per wheel of unsprung weight. This impacts braking, acceleration, and handling. For me, it was very noticeable.
I threw one on the scale one time, I forgot what it weighs but I justified it by how much droop I gained…🤣
 
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I frequently run 4 psi with the load range E’s the tire doesn’t seem to flatten out near as much as my old 35 x 12.50 x 15’s at twice that pressure. Just bite the bullet and get some standard bead locks, there is also the valve stem protection the ring offers to add to the pro’s.
 
These are 33's on 17" with 2.5 lift and 1.25 body lift. Don't do any hard core rock bashing but they work fine for what I do. 4:56 gears too. Sounds prettu much like what you were planning. If I was bashing, I'd go to 15's with beater rims.

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In my experience and observations there are too many variables at play to simply point at load range and sidewall plies.
What other factors are at play in tire bulge besides load range and number of sidewall plies? Manufacturers use those two factors to match weight of the vehicle and it’s tow capacity.

Most of our rigs weigh around 4,000-4,750lb’s. We definitely don’t need a load e tire. I suspect with the Coyotes you’ll run the 17” MTR’s that come in C load.
 
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What other factors are at play in tire bulge besides load range and number of sidewall plies? Manufacturers use those two factors to match weight of the vehicle and it’s tow capacity.

Most of our rigs weigh around 4,000-4,750lb’s. We definitely don’t need a load e tire. I suspect with the Coyotes you’ll run the 17” MTR’s that come in C load.
All I know is that my load range C Patagonias rode about the same as all my prior E range tires, which was nothing I would ever complain about. Though the overall performance was notably awful. And my current C range MTRs are the best riding and best performing tire I have had on the Jeep. The difference was immediately noticable in every scenario I put them into.
 
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All I know is that my load range C Patagonias rode about the same as all my prior E range tires, though the overall performance was notably awful. And my current C range MTRs are the best riding and best performing tire I have had on the Jeep.
I just read that the Patagonias have been re-made to avoid all the problems. New compound, new design. I think you should give the new set a try.,🤣

EDIT: they are very popular up here in the INW. I’m not surprised as they are Jeep idiots. Everything is RE, RC, Shittybilt, and if you have MC that is da bomb. 😒 I’m thinking of moving just to avoid depression.
 
I just read that the Patagonias have been re-made to avoid all the problems. New compound, new design. I think you should give the new set a try.,🤣
There sure are a lot of them in the videos from Easter Jeep. Even Bleepinjeep had them on their rigs and he's more of a swamper guy.
 
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There sure are a lot of them in the videos from Easter Jeep. Even Bleepinjeep had them on their rigs and he's more of a swamper guy.
See my EDIT above! I see the same thing here. I can’t count the number of FB post praising Patagonias. At the same time the number of complaints tire shops get is off the charts. Thus the total makeover.
 
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I just read that the Patagonias have been re-made to avoid all the problems. New compound, new design. I think you should give the new set a try.,🤣

EDIT: they are very popular up here in the INW. I’m not surprised as they are Jeep idiots. Everything is RE, RC, Shittybilt, and if you have MC that is da bomb. 😒 I’m thinking of moving just to avoid depression.
Anyone who thinks the Patagonia is a great tire would be happy with any tire. 😉
 
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See my EDIT above! I see the same thing here. I can’t count the number of FB post praising Patagonias. At the same time the number of complaints tire shops get is off the charts. Thus the total makeover.
You're right -

Milestar to launch the Patagonia M/T-02 in 32 sizes including its tallest, a 42X14.5R20LT

GARDENA, CA – NOV 2, 2021 – MILESTAR, a leader of high value performance tires, is pleased to announce the release of the second generation Patagonia M/T-02. Developed around years of feedback from real-world enthusiasts and professional rock crawling competitions, the new M/T-02 garners much of the original M/T design, yet integrates all-new internal tire technologies with finite adjustments. It is engineered to be even stronger, tougher and more pliable during aggressive rock-crawling, yet harness the traits that made it one of the smoothest and quietest on-road performing M/T tires on the market.

The tread design is what makes the original Patagonia M/T the best at balancing on-road manners with off-road toughness. It now integrates cross-directional siping to improve tread block strength and resilience with a more stable footprint while reducing the risk of chunking. Redeveloped from the inside out, the much improved mud terrain integrates

Milestar’s MILETECH® 3-Ply sidewall with added rigidity for maximum sidewall durability, yet still pliable and flexible for aired-down bite and off road grip. A newly formulated tread compound that includes cut and chip resistance, allows for longer tread life without sacrificing off road traction.

The Patagonia M/T-02 will be available in 32 sizes including popular OEM and high-flotation sizes, from 15” to 22” wheel diameters and up to F-Load Rating depending on the size. It is now offered in up to 42” overall diameter and 22” wheel diameters as well. The M/T-02 continues a tradition of high value, off-road enthusiast tires that performs as promised. It will launch with some key sizes in Q4 2021.

“The Patagonia M/T-02 is five years in the making. After a successful launch of the original M/T, we dived head first into making it even better!” stated Andrew Hoit, Tireco’s Vice President of Sales and Marketing. We are truly committed to improving our product reliability and quality, and the M/T-02 is a continued step in key product advancement.”

Popular Sizes Available: LT285/70R17, 37X12.5R17LT, 42X14.5R20LT
 
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What I think is interesting is that Matt's Offroad recovery has them on ALL their vehicles, including the new trailer he's building. He doesn't really say much about them though...which can be telling. He's plugged Barnes, Yukon, and others...but Milestar has only gotten a passing mention here and there.
 
What I think is interesting is that Matt's Offroad recovery has them on ALL their vehicles, including the new trailer he's building. He doesn't really say much about them though...which can be telling. He's plugged Barnes, Yukon, and others...but Milestar has only gotten a passing mention here and there.
Milestar says it all. They shine for the first mile. 🤣
 
These are 33's on 17" with 2.5 lift and 1.25 body lift. Don't do any hard core rock bashing but they work fine for what I do. 4:56 gears too. Sounds prettu much like what you were planning. If I was bashing, I'd go to 15's with beater rims.

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Are those the mopar JL beadlocks? That is a sexy wheel. Been watching marketplace for a set myself...I find em for 1500 to 2k often...but for that money, I'd rather buy something with the correct bolt pattern.
 
I frequently run 4 psi with the load range E’s the tire doesn’t seem to flatten out near as much as my old 35 x 12.50 x 15’s at twice that pressure. Just bite the bullet and get some standard bead locks, there is also the valve stem protection the ring offers to add to the pro’s.
Thanks for pushing me ahead. I still owe you some $$$