Changing from 2WD to 4H

[97' 4 Popper]

Speaking for myself, I've never driven in snow, and don't intend to now. If it should happen to snow here, I'm staying the Hell home. I don't know how to drive in it and neither do any of the other fools out there.

Well you live in Florida so it doesn't really reflect badly on you. You have to have snowfall in the first place to get experience and skills driving in it.

It would be nice if some people would stay home when it snows. Especially the idiots that don't have the equipment to be out in it. If you drive a minivan, STAY HOME. If you didn't get snow tires, STAY HOME. If you aren't smart enough or respectful enough to pull over when you are traveling at 7 MPH and see the flashing yellow light on my truck and big steel thing attached to the front called a plow, STAY HOME. If you can not physically walk 4 feet, STAY HOME. If you wear sneakers, STAY HOME.

I agree with everything you said except for the snow tires part. I'm not trying to argue that they aren't extremely helpful or that 4wd is going to help you turn or stop (obviously it wont). The only reason why I say that is because most people who I know who get snow tires in the first place are really bad at driving and aren't pushing their abilities to make use of them.

 

[Gollywomper]

I hate driving in the snow. I really enjoy wheeling in the snow. 2 very different things and require very different tires.

 

[jjvw]

I hate driving in the snow. I really enjoy wheeling in the snow. 2 very different things and require very different tires.

I'm the opposite. I usually enjoy driving in the snow and have little interest in snow wheeling.

 

[psrivats]

They only treat you how you let them.

I wish more parents understood this clearly.

 

[psrivats]

I'm the opposite. I usually enjoy driving in the snow and have little interest in snow wheeling.

I don't mind snow, it usually makes dreary suburbs look majestic, just like the thick heavy fog we get makes everything look dramatic. It's fun driving in the snow.

The ice .. that's a different story. People overestimate their driving skills and that causes all sorts of issues.

 

[5632]

I will never to get to meet any of you guys because I will never be near snow or ice. You want it you can have it.

 

[RINC]

I was shocked, but not surprised when my company called to ask me if I wanted to become a trainer. Heard it from other drivers that they would ask me about 6 months in. Told them fuck no. Lemme get through my first winter solo.

I had started off in the winter with a trainer. Try being a rookie in a 40 ton truck having never driven in the snow.

Skill and a lot of luck kept me out of many, many is these.

 

[jjvw]

I was shocked, but not surprised when my company called to ask me if I wanted to become a trainer. Heard it from other drivers that they would ask me about 6 months in. Told them fuck no. Lemme get through my first winter solo.

I had started off in the winter with a trainer. Try being a rookie in a 40 ton truck having never driven in the snow.

Skill and a lot of luck kept me out of many, many is these.

In a past life, I spent a lot of time driving under-26,000lb box trucks around many small mountain towns. Lots of time on highway and high, narrow switchbacks. I enjoyed the challenge of getting those through the snow and ice where others couldn't or wouldn't. I outfitted them go where we needed to go and never got stuck in our trucks. But I never trusted my guys to get in and out of the same places I was willing to go. I don't miss being responsible for other people driving company vehicles.

 

[Kip100]

Girls or guys it doesn't really matter some people are just never going to get it and it's safer for them to just stay off the road at that point.

Agreed. I just happened to notice it was more of a thing this week with the recent snow, all my guy patients made it in. That being said during snow-maggedon in San Antonio last February I did have to help a guy with a 2020 4 door figure out his 4x4.
Know your gear!

 

[Kip100]

Since when is there a rule that conversations don't stray? If they didn't, 90% of the crap posted would be the same old 10% that everyone already knows over and over.

Love these digressions

 

[mushdogs]

What kind of redneck shit is that word?

Ain't my fault y’all can’t understand English up there in Maine.

 

[mushdogs]

Holy crap yes! That is what I'm talking about. The only way to learn and not be afraid is to practice these skills in a controlled environment to prevent panicking and expensive, deadly mistakes. I grew up in Connecticut and part of my drivers Ed was being put into a slide and skid and having to get out of it, besides of course avoiding the situation in the first place. They made us practice and practice til we got it. The most valuable driving training ever. Good fundamentals!
Need to win the lottery would start a custom shop, honest straight forward mechanics, off road and crawling classes and basic drivers Ed. Someone #Kickstart me!!!

Puget Sound Basin. They usually shut everything down and roll up the sidewalks when it snows.

 

[MikekiM]

Boy, talk about a tough one to explain to folks and get them to understand it. We have to run a lot of small diameter front driveshafts and the critical speed is usually under 60 mph. I explain to the owners that they can't run in 4 hi faster than 50 or they may bow the driveshaft and tear up some stuff and since they have hubs, I doubt the caster will let them go much faster vibe free anyway.

They always want to be able to go faster. No, stop it, if you're in 4 hi, that means something sucks about the conditions and you don't need to go any faster.

hmmm.. makes perfect sense to me. Who are THESE PEOPLE who have a hard time understanding this?

..... Jumbo Shrimp sort of makes no sense to us lol

Jumbo Shrimp? Is it a really big Shrimp or a really small Jumbo?
Hot water heater? WTF for? You can't heat hot water. It's a cold water heater or a hot water cooler.
Driveway or Parkway? You drive on a parkway and park in a driveway.
This stuff makes no sense...

 

[Kip100]

Puget Sound Basin. They usually shut everything down and roll up the

hmmm.. makes perfect sense to me. Who are THESE PEOPLE who have a hard time understanding this?

Jumbo Shrimp? Is it a really big Shrimp or a really small Jumbo?
Hot water heater? WTF for? You can't heat hot water. It's a cold water heater or a hot water cooler.
Driveway or Parkway? You drive on a parkway and park in a driveway.
This stuff makes no sense...

OMG

 

[mushdogs]

OMG

Hold up… you think I’m kidding?
Ever since we moved from that side of the mountains, my wife and I find it fun to watch the news whenever it snows over there to see just how messed up it gets with an inch or two of snow. Businesses closed up, transit and schools shut down etc.
We get it, we grew up on Whidbey Island. Snow was never a long lived occurrence and most municipalities over there aren’t set up for large or long duration snow events.
Still fun to watch. You know, before I go out and start the tractor because the #*$&ing county plow guy bermed us in 3’ high and knocked off the mailbox. Again.

 

[MikekiM]

....You know, before I go out and start the tractor because the #*$&ing county plow guy bermed us in 3’ high and knocked off the mailbox. Again.

I spend more time and energy clearing the snow berm on the last few feet of my driveway than I do the rest of my property. Those guys just don't give a F__k.

 

[Kip100]

Hold up… you think I’m kidding?
Ever since we moved from that side of the mountains, my wife and I find it fun to watch the news whenever it snows over there to see just how messed up it gets with an inch or two of snow. Businesses closed up, transit and schools shut down etc.
We get it, we grew up on Whidbey Island. Snow was never a long lived occurrence and most municipalities over there aren’t set up for large or long duration snow events.
Still fun to watch. You know, before I go out and start the tractor because the #*$&ing county plow guy bermed us in 3’ high and knocked off the mailbox. Again.

Lol yes this is my first winter up here and it's pretty interesting....half refuse to drive at all and the other half end up in accidents. I'm not sure why I thought drivers might be better here vs san Antonio.
And the omg was for MikekiM's reply. Made my brain hurt a little ☺

 

[Kip100]

Hold up… you think I’m kidding?
Ever since we moved from that side of the mountains, my wife and I find it fun to watch the news whenever it snows over there to see just how messed up it gets with an inch or two of snow. Businesses closed up, transit and schools shut down etc.
We get it, we grew up on Whidbey Island. Snow was never a long lived occurrence and most municipalities over there aren’t set up for large or long duration snow events.
Still fun to watch. You know, before I go out and start the tractor because the #*$&ing county plow guy bermed us in 3’ high and knocked off the mailbox. Again.

Hey at least you get to play on the tractor

 

[mushdogs]

Lol yes this is my first winter up here and it's pretty interesting....half refuse to drive at all and the other half end up in accidents. I'm not sure why I thought drivers might be better here vs san Antonio.

And the omg was for MikekiM's reply. Made my brain hurt a little ☺

One winter there was a big wet dump. It was collapsing the slip sheds at a number of marinas, right atop the boats. Not enough pitch for the snow to slide off. That wet, heavy snow is called Cascade Concrete.

 

[mushdogs]

I spend more time and energy clearing the snow berm on the last few feet of my driveway than I do the rest of my property. Those guys just don't give a F__k.

I don’t fault the plow guys. They keep up our mountain roads in some awful conditions. Clearing the berm is a small price to pay, really. I did give up on the mailbox a couple years ago, however. Wife works at the general store. We just get it delivered there. Simpler, and no worrying about shady characters stealing from the box.