It is a shift in weight. So a spring or two must compress.Wanna try that again?
It is a shift in weight. So a spring or two must compress.Wanna try that again?
The bottom line is that the vehicle handles much differently with the softer Antirock than with the original stiffer stabilizer bar. And in some situations, this change in handling makes controlling the vehicle much more challenging having too much body roll. I'm not taking a stab at the Antirock; it's a great product, but it has its appropriate use cases.Its a goofy thought that an AR is unsafe... especially when some have mentioned highway driving disconnected.
I have 3X as many years driving with an Antirock on two different TJs than you at 21 have driving, period. If my Antirock was even half as bad as you claim it is I wouldn't be driving with one. Maybe your TJ has other issues, I don't know, but my TJ handles fine and is entirely safe on even the curvy mountain roads it is on a lot. I've owned my share of BMW's, Mercedes, Lexuses, Triumph sports cars, Datsun/Nissan Roadsters and Z cars, etc. so I know what excellent handling is all about.I'll leave it at this. If body roll doesn't matter at all in regards to handling and consequently safety, why did Jeep bother putting a sway bar on the TJ in the first place? For decoration?
Yeah, I’ve recovered from much worse. This mostly sounds like inexperience. A wrangler without all the electronic stuff (including abs) isn’t something they teach anymore. Fortunately I grew up on treacherous roads with old cars.I have 3X as many years driving with an Antirock on two different TJs than you at 21 have driving, period. If my Antirock was even half as bad as you claim it is I wouldn't be driving with one. Maybe your TJ has other issues, I don't know, but my TJ handles fine and is entirely safe on even the curvy mountain roads it is on a lot. I've owned my share of BMW's, Mercedes, Lexuses, Triumph sports cars, Datsun/Nissan Roadsters and Z cars, etc. so I know what excellent handling is all about.
Does my current TJ with its 4" Currie suspension, 1" body lift, and 35" tires handle as well as any of them? Of course not. Does it handle entirely safely and without the excessive body roll your far more limited experience with an Anticrock is claiming it exhibits? Yes, I wouldn't drive it if it did not. Don't over-exaggerate something that simply is nowhere what your claims are saying.
Something else caused that event you experienced described as happening while taking that onramp too fast for conditions while on wet roads. Your TJ is unsafe solely because of its Antirock? Pure 100% absolute bullshit.
Correct. If you are controlling chassis reaction front to back, it would be impossible for that to not also affect side to side.It is a shift in weight. So a spring or two must compress.
Got that. A shock will naturally combat/slow body roll. So why a change in tune for a different sway bar? Is it due to allowing the shock to react “faster” since it no longer has to slow the body roll?Correct. If you are controlling chassis reaction front to back, it would be impossible for that to not also affect side to side.
Do you have excessive body roll with a well tuned shock? Have you run well tuned shocks?Got that. A shock will naturally combat/slow body roll. So why a change in tune for a different sway bar? Is it due to allowing the shock to react “faster” since it no longer has to slow the body roll?
if we have a good tuned shock, but have excessive body roll, wouldn’t we need to “stiffen” the shock to help with the body roll?
No to both. I do not have tuned shocks yet. Soon though. I run a stock sway bar. I have no complains of body roll on road. I am just exploring options on a solution for off road.Do you have excessive body roll with a well tuned shock? Have you run well tuned shocks?
Yeah, I've got a buddy that would like to pick one up on a good dealAny of you guys that have an anti rock and don't like it, lemme know. I have a buddy looking for one...
Lol. I actually have one already. It's really is for a buddy! If there was a sway loc floating around for a deal, I'd buy that and sell the anti rock to my buddy!Yeah, I've got a buddy that would like to pick one up on a good dealmyselfhimself.
Proving out my sig, eh?No to both. I do not have tuned shocks yet. Soon though. I run a stock sway bar. I have no complains of body roll on road. I am just exploring options on a solution for off road.
what changes in a shock tune between the two aftermarket sway bars?
I see, the anti-squat expert has arrived.Roll centers make a difference too. I'm thinking I don't need a rear swaybar even with the front AR full soft.
Are you suggesting roll centers have no impact in body roll?I see, the anti-squat expert has arrived.
Have fun with this.Are you suggesting roll centers have no impact in body roll?
Have fun with this.
Why did you outboard?Roll centers make a difference too. I'm thinking I don't need a rear swaybar even with the front AR full soft.
Maybe later. I know how these things go and I'm still irritated with a few from last time.Educate me about roll centers and how one swaybar fits all