SKIS (SKIM) Sentry Key Programming

No, the keys are programmable with a code unique to the key.

Interesting.
I assume the keys can only be programmed by some kind of bench top programmer. So, the code on one's key could be read and then programmed onto a new key.

When the key programming operation is done with the two keys in the ignition, the SKIS system I assume will never program they key, it will only program they key's code to the jeep, correct? So, are they keys that we purchase on amazon/ebay/etc already programmed? If so, I assume they cannot be re-programmed? This would imply that places that can "clone" keys have key blanks that have never had their chips programmed before.

It's either confusing or I'm over-complicating it.

Thanks for the help in understanding.
 
Interesting.
I assume the keys can only be programmed by some kind of bench top programmer. So, the code on one's key could be read and then programmed onto a new key.

When the key programming operation is done with the two keys in the ignition, the SKIS system I assume will never program they key, it will only program they key's code to the jeep, correct? So, are they keys that we purchase on amazon/ebay/etc already programmed? If so, I assume they cannot be re-programmed? This would imply that places that can "clone" keys have key blanks that have never had their chips programmed before.

It's either confusing or I'm over-complicating it.

Thanks for the help in understanding.
What are you trying to figure out?
 
What are you trying to figure out?

When I go somewhere, be it a dealer or locksmith, to have another key made (I only have one) I want to ensure that I'm getting a uniquely coded key that I can use with my current key to make further copies with. In other words, I want to know if I am getting a clone or a unique key, and I want to know what they require to create a unique key. If I am starting to understand, if they don't have the vehicle, they can only clone a key, and not create one of the unique eight keys that the SKIS can be programmed for.
 
When I go somewhere, be it a dealer or locksmith, to have another key made (I only have one) I want to ensure that I'm getting a uniquely coded key that I can use with my current key to make further copies with. In other words, I want to know if I am getting a clone or a unique key, and I want to know what they require to create a unique key. If I am starting to understand, if they don't have the vehicle, they can only clone a key, and not create one of the unique eight keys that the SKIS can be programmed for.
I have heard but have yet to verify that some lock smiths have a programmer that creates a unique code to the copy. I am not entirely certain that claim is valid.

The dealer should be using the DRB to program the key since it would be of little benefit to them to make a clone.
 
I have heard but have yet to verify that some lock smiths have a programmer that creates a unique code to the copy. I am not entirely certain that claim is valid.

The dealer should be using the DRB to program the key since it would be of little benefit to them to make a clone.

OK, then my best bet is to see if I can find a dealer to do this. I'll start calling around.
Thank you mrblaine for help on this, and the many threads of yours that I've read that have helped me on other things that you didn't even know you helped on! :):)(y)(y)
 
I just did this yesterday. I called a mobile lock smith and he said he could cut program a key. I only had one key. He showed up cut a dummy key shaft for trial then cut a transponder key and went to the jeep and plugged in his programmer and did his thing. It was about 30 to 45 minutes from when he pulled up till he drove off.
 
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I just did this yesterday. I called a mobile lock smith and he said he could cut program a key. I only had one key. He showed up cut a dummy key shaft for trial then cut a transponder key and went to the jeep and plugged in his programmer and did his thing. It was about 30 to 45 minutes from when he pulled up till he drove off.

Interesting. It certainly sounds like this is not a "cloned" key but one of the unique 8 keys that our vehicles can respond to. I'd be very curious to see if you could program a third key from the two you have now. That would prove that this is not a cloned key.
Thanks for the reply and let us know if you try to create your own copy and if it works. It would be good for you to have a third key anyway in case you lose one, as you'd still be able to create your own key from the other two.
 
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I have ordered a couple of Y160 transponder keys and will get them cut and give the programing a try

Very cool! Please let us know if the home programming works. At least then we will have one data point that says a mobile locksmith can do this job properly. Thanks for the update and look forward to hearing if it works or not!
 
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Okay I got 2 of the Y160 transponder keys from Keys I took them up to the ace hardware store and had them cut. I then followed the procedure in post #1 by Chris and they both work perfect. So for under $20.00 I now have 2 spare transponder keys.
 
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Okay I got 2 of the Y160 transponder keys from Keys I took them up to the ace hardware store and had them cut. I then followed the procedure in post #1 by Chris and they both work perfect. So for under $20.00 I now have 2 spare transponder keys.

This is cool! So know we have a data point where somebody had keys programmed from a locksmith and we know that the key wasn't a "clone" but a correctly programmed new key!
Thanks very much for following up!
 
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I have bought blanks before online and have programmed a few keys myself due to wear. I wish we could just tack the transducer onto a newly cut blank and skip programming unless the transducer itself goes bad. I am partly concerned because it seems that I have to replace seized door locks and would like to maintain matching door and ignition. I also lost my PIN a long time ago (it WAS in the center console). 240,000km+ and still going strong (2004 Rubi)
 
I would imagine you could have the door locks re keyed to your current key from a locksmith. I don' t have my pin either, it wasn't needed to cut and program the new key even tho I only had one. They had to cut a regular steel key for some reason because I didn't have the pin. I'm not even sure where you'd get the pin, would the dealer tell you?

240k klics, nice!
 
I would imagine you could have the door locks re keyed to your current key from a locksmith. I don' t have my pin either, it wasn't needed to cut and program the new key even tho I only had one. They had to cut a regular steel key for some reason because I didn't have the pin. I'm not even sure where you'd get the pin, would the dealer tell you?

240k klics, nice!
Supposedly, the dealer can tell you, if they know how to look it up anymore, based on this thread!

Indeed, I have a good locksmith I work with here, so I will probably order the un keyed cylinders and caps or entire units and have them key them.
 
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Is there any way to look at a stand alone 2005-2006 ecm and identify if it was a skim or non skim Jeep? These eBay sellers list ecms and they don’t seem too concerned about skim at all.
 
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When I bought my TJ a year ago it came with one key. Today I went to Ace Hardware and got a second one cut and programmed for $75 bucks out the door. The second blank they needed was part of the deal.

Next, I'll order a couple programmable blanks and get them cut and try the programming procedure.
 
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The current 2003 Jeep I'm building doesn't have the SKIM system. However, I do have a spare column that has the SKIM module. Since I'd like to add the SKIM, I'm planning to swap the entire column with the module into my '03. When I do this, I'm also planning to move the existing lock cylinder to the column I'll be sapping in.

Since the '03 doesn't have the system now, my understanding is that the computer will recognize the new SKIM module the first time I start it and program itself. Is this in fact correct?

Also, since I don't have a chipped key now, how do I get two new keys that are uniquely coded?
 
It is simple to get done. If you were to send me the PCM and VIN, we can purchase the module, have the keys cut, install the PCM in a compatible TJ, do the programming and ship it all back. My guy would charge maybe 100 bucks for everything labor wise. Parts are about 200ish. He has all three Chrysler DRB scanners. About 8000 dollars worth.
Sorry to bring this post back all the way up but are you still offering this service? My new to me Lj is going through all the common failures. Fuel pump then the crank sensor now the skim module haha.
Anyway pretty confident I have a failing skim module due to intermittent failure codes and light and finally refused to start. Cleared the codes using a modis and it turned over but the light is still on. No ground issues. Power and grounds check out. My modis doesn't have skim tools. But with clearing the code and turning over seems be the keys are OK. Though I would ask to get new OE keys. This of course if the service is still being done. Id message but think I may still be to new . Thanks in advance