Do you have swaybar disconnects on the rear axle?

[Tob]

So I get it, I need the rear sway bar for traction and stability, but how do you guys tolerate the head toss... the side to side motion when on very rocky terrain. I swear when my rear sway is connected it feels like every bump throws the jeeps left and right. The feeling is very uncomfortable to the point my back starts to chaffe from friction with the seat.

Slow down a bit or lean forward in your seat maybe.

 

[joe98tj]

Seats that hold you in place and a harness should help

 

[jjvw]

Slow down...

...or find that hill to die on. I know about where it is.

 

[kmas0n]

Yes, the tires are aired down (8-12 psi), Yes I have an antirock on the front (and have tried different settings. But did you die? I'm talking 5-8 mph.

 

[jjvw]

Yes, the tires are aired down (8-12 psi), Yes I have an antirock on the front (and have tried different settings. But did you die? I'm talking 5-8 mph.

Haven't died yet. And I can move pretty quickly over rough terrain with my halfway done setup.

 

[kmas0n]

Before I outboarded my Fox Remote reservoir, I had Rancho 5000x's front and rear. I had a rear sway bar but the rocky roads around here were just brutal. I'm not talking cliffhanger huge boulders you can die kinda trails, Just lots of small rock. My TJ was so uncomfortable to drive I nearly sold it. One day in desperation, I took the rear sway bar off. The jeep was a totally different animal off-road. No rough side to side toss. Smooth over very rough terrain. The antirock keeps it civil. Outboarding and tuning the rear shocks has helped immensely too and I can now drive very fast off-road, on-road manners are acceptable. I would like to throw the sway bar back on, but not at expense of hating the way the jeep responds to uneven terrain.

 

[jjvw]

Before I outboarded my Fox Remote reservoir, I had Rancho 5000x's front and rear. I had a rear sway bar but the rocky roads around here were just brutal. I'm not talking cliffhanger huge boulders you can die kinda trails, Just lots of small rock. My TJ was so uncomfortable to drive I nearly sold it. One day in desperation, I took the rear sway bar off. The jeep was a totally different animal off-road. No rough side to side toss. Smooth over very rough terrain. The antirock keeps it civil. Outboarding and tuning the rear shocks has helped immensely too and I can now drive very fast off-road, on-road manners are acceptable. I would like to throw the sway bar back on, but not at expense of hating the way the jeep responds to uneven terrain.

Try putting the rear sway bar back on now that the shocks are done.

There is also an argument for a rear Antirock. It's arms are longer than stock. So despite being stiffer, it is said to be less harsh.

 

[Tob]

Hi all,
I am interested to install a SwayLoc or AntiRock at some point, but I currently use sway bar disconnects on the the front axle.
Do you have swaybar disconnects on the rear axle? How about AntiRock users, did you install an AntiRock on the rear?
Do you disconnect both sides of the sway bar? Is this for interference issues when articulating? That question is more of an academic that I think about while crawling around in the dirt to reconnect both sides.

If you disconnect both sway bars, you will experience unwanted body behavior, especially in off-camber situations. Higher lifts will exacerbate this. The upside to disconnecting sway bars is that there is less resistance to axle articulation. The upside to using sway bars is controlling body behavior. A compromise to consider would be a sway bar with a lower torsion constant such as the Antirock.

 

[Mumblewood]

I took mine off once years ago, didn’t like it at all. Easy trails got harder due to lack of traction and the jeep just felt too unstable for me especially on the side hills. I put it back on and won’t be taking it off again unless I get AR.

 

[Jerry Bransford]

Leaf spring suspensions are fine without antiswaybars. That's because leaf springs are stable in all directions except up/down.

The TJ doesn't have a leaf spring suspension, it has a coil spring suspension. Coil springs aren't stable in any direction. Which is why our TJs don't do well without some form of front and rear antiswaybar.

Not to mention that removing or disconnecting the rear antiswaybar does not increase that axle's usable (!) flex/articulation. Which is why rear disconnects are rarely (if at all) seen any more, they don't help.

 

[kmas0n]

Try putting the rear sway bar back on now that the shocks are done.

There is also an argument for a rear Antirock. It's arms are longer than stock. So despite being stiffer, it is said to be less harsh.

I'll try it. Maybe I can tune out some of the harshness. More low speed rebound?

 

[Stinkbug]

So I get it, I need the rear sway bar for traction and stability, but how do you guys tolerate the head toss... the side to side motion when on very rocky terrain. I swear when my rear sway is connected it feels like every bump throws the jeeps left and right. The feeling is very uncomfortable to the point my back starts to chaffe from friction with the seat.

Chaffed back? Maybe ditch the strapless dress and pull on a t-shirt before hitting the trail?

 

[D M]

.... No one around here really runs it on offroad rigs even with antirock fronts....

did... did this guy really just say that

 

[Jerry Bransford]

Can say no all ya want. No one around here really runs it on offroad rigs even with antirock fronts. Sure you get a little body roll but it's an offroad rig, not a track car. Just drive it as such.

You're hanging around the wrong (aka clueless) bunch.

 

[joe98tj]

You're hanging around the wrong (aka clueless) bunch.

Nope, just folks that have no use for rear sway bars until it really is needed. Most definitely not a clueless bunch. Yall wanna blow money on rear antirocks, or spend time making stock rear sway bars work, go ahead. I'm just saying a lot of people up my way wheel just fine without one.

 

[joe98tj]

did... did this guy really just say that

I dont see how this is some kind of big revelation. No one I know up this way has ever mentioned feeling such a bad difference they wanted to spend time to putting a rear sway bar back on.

 

[jjvw]

Nope, just folks that have no use for rear sway bars until it really is needed. Most definitely not a clueless bunch. Yall wanna blow money on rear antirocks, or spend time making stock rear sway bars work, go ahead. I'm just saying a lot of people up my way wheel just fine without one.

Patagonias are a great tire right up until having a decent performing tire starts to matter.

 

[jjvw]

I dont see how this is some kind of big revelation. No one I know up this way has ever mentioned feeling such a bad difference they wanted to spend time to putting a rear sway bar back on.

Because it doesn't matter for the people you know.

 

[joe98tj]

Because it doesn't matter for the people you know.

Those of us not running rear sway bars up here aren't a rear sway bar away from crazy traction. Its not needed so we don't run one. If you wanna send me the cash I'll go buy a rear antirock and throw it in my jeep, I'm sure it'd ride nicer but theres other stuff I could dump money on.

 

[jjvw]

Those of us not running rear sway bars up here aren't a rear sway bar away from crazy traction. Its not needed so we don't run one. If you wanna send me the cash I'll go buy a rear antirock and throw it in my jeep, I'm sure it'd ride nicer but theres other stuff I could dump money on.

There is also absolutely no reason to remove the factory rear sway bar short is replacing it with an AR. The fact that your guys do it and it doesn't matter tells us everything we need to know.

Meanwhile, you are arguing with several here who know how to put together a very well performing TJ, both on the highway and in the big rocks where these things do matter. On the very same rig. Try to reconcile that.