I can’t run the MTR up here because they don’t perform well on the snow and ice
I can’t run the MTR up here because they don’t perform well on the snow and ice
I meant that the other way, that the writing on the wall is saying the 15" options are going away. Meaning for me the next wheel is 90% likely to be a 17" trail ready.but I agree that the writing is on the wall to stay with 15’s for now.
Then the writing is on the wall for both of us! Hope to see you on the trail sooner than later.I meant that the other way, that the writing on the wall is saying the 15" options are going away. Meaning for me the next wheel is 90% likely to be a 17" trail ready.
The only difference between the 15" and 16" Vanco kits is the size of the rotor. The knuckle and caliper are the same.Is sneaking 16”BBK into 15’s worth the effort over going with a 15” BBK?
If you are investing money and time into Coyotes, put that effort into a wheel size that you can buy tires for.I noticed the interchangeability of the 15 and 16” BBK on the BM site. Thanks for the ideas. It’s kind of a hard decision for my situation, but I agree that the writing is on the wall to stay with 15’s for now. I’m not sure what I can’t do with them, so why not? I could add Coyotes, I can add a BBK, I can get a tire that works well up here.
In my case, a JK/JL take off wheel works really well with a hub kit. If I had known I was doing this two years ago, I would have bought the Super 16" BBK.As more mfg's are coming out with "off-road" packages like the sasquatch Bronco and whatever Jeep is calling their Rubicon package with 35's, I'm seeing the availability of load range C increase, if that is important to you. Personally, I think its overblown, but I've also only ran one LR C tire in all the different tires I've had. I don't notice a difference and in my mind the heavier tires will have a stronger sidewall to resist punctures? I'm making that up but sticking with it, LOL.
Its also MUCH easier to find take-offs and what-not with 17" wheels. For some reason, the backspacing options aren't great, but as our TJ's get older, we will have to be more comfortable making adjustments to our vehicles to keep up with more modern trends. I'm convinced that I'll be running spacers until I pony up for custom beadlocks, if I ever do.
Regarding brakes...for 35's the most brake you'll need would be the 15/16 kit. Just because you can fit the 17" kit doesn't mean you should run it. Its designed for guys running 40's and you'll have a hard time keeping the pads broken in (so says the wizard).
I can't say I've had issues between home and my cabin near the ski resorts, but I know snow and ice conditions can vary across locales. I usually take the passes. Other tires would be better (A/Ts), but until the tread is really low the MTRs aren't that bad.
I was recommended the 16’s because LJ. Likely not needed for a lighter TJ build.Is sneaking 16”BBK into 15’s worth the effort over going with a 15” BBK?
Hub kit and adapter? From what I remember, the hub kits are available in 5 x 4.5 and 5 x 5.5. JK wheels are 5 x 5.In my case, a JK/JL take off wheel works really well with a hub kit. If I had known I was doing this two years ago, I would have bought the Super 16" BBK.
All of it together. 5x5.5 would be a whole additional layer to the can of worms I poured for myself.Hub kit and adapter? From what I remember, the hub kits are available in 5 x 4.5 and 5 x 5.5. JK wheels are 5 x 5.
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Curious about what makes you want the super 16 kit? I'm going to do a BBK sooner rather than later and I've been leaning toward the "regular" BBK. I have 17" wheels so I could run anything I'd like. Based on discussions with Blaine, but not specifically about my rig, I'm assuming that the 15" kit covers the needs of 95% of the jeeps out there, unless your towing or running a heavy rig. You do carry quite a bit of stuff, don't you?
You should tryMore painting projects. I want to get the tailgate better than the Duplicolor PR4, and the Sunrise Red by Rustoleum is a very close answer. Poser pic for fun.
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I’ve ordered touch up for our Yukon from them before. It’s brush on. I wish it was spray.
I have used the aerosols from Automotive touchup, they spray well and match well.I’ve ordered touch up for our Yukon from them before. It’s brush on. I wish it was spray.
What I’m doing with the Red is all practice on my rig to get ready to paint some serious spots on the Patriot Blue Rubicon. I will be trying to blend and get it close to body match. The paint I have for that is from ERA in Oregon. @Alex01 recommended them. It comes with Primer, Base Coat, and 2K clear, so once it’s activated it only lasts 8 hours. We’ll do the prep one day and paint the next. Need a few warmer days for that paint day.
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Now that I’m getting good enough with aerosol’s I am also thinking about an HVLP gun.
Have you used the aerosol’s from Automotive TouchUp?
I'm recently put BMB 16" brakes on with 15" STEEL wheels. @mrblaine told me the 16" works with most steel 15" wheels but not necessarily aluminum because they thicker. Here's my clearance:I am eventually getting new wheels. I just can't decide whether to go to 17's or stay with 15's. Currently I think I could be happy with the tire offerings in both 17 and 15. What do you guys think?
My pros and cons here:
15's
More sidewall for traction airing down
Load C very common
Wheels plentiful in 15x8
Tires cheaper
BBK not an option (EDIT: the 15" or 16" BBK works with 15" wheels)
17's
BBK option
Tire market moving this direction
17" JK Moab takeoffs are cheap
May have trouble finding Load C tire I'm happy with
Things I don't know about:
Is there significant weight difference between a 15" vs 17" tire/wheel combo?
Is there any difference in hub kit install with 15" vs 17" wheels?
i use this, matches my color great (khaki metallic). just be sure to use the correct code from your door jamb.Have you used the aerosol’s from Automotive TouchUp?
Is the caliper rubbing the weights? Mine did that.I'm recently put BMB 16" brakes on with 15" STEEL wheels. @mrblaine told me the 16" works with most steel 15" wheels but not necessarily aluminum because they thicker. Here's my clearance:
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Is there no room to move the stickies outboard? All my stickies fit outboard of the caliperI'm recently put BMB 16" brakes on with 15" STEEL wheels. @mrblaine told me the 16" works with most steel 15" wheels but not necessarily aluminum because they thicker. Here's my clearance:
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they fit, barely. but the weights have room to be moved outboard too. point is, it's tight with steel wheels.Is there no room to move the stickies outboard? All my stickies fit outboard of the caliper