Abbreviated Savvy mid-arm kit questions

Your little buddy brought my name up. You felt the need to jump in. Get the mirror out, it’s you.

in the spirit of the thread:

@WSS some of us do have to bring more stuff along because of spouse and or kids. I’d be happy to go anywhere with you and your over prepared rig!
I was reading a thread out of interest. You and Josh's beef isn't relevant to that. I don't have beef with you, but I am finding more and more distaste with your comments and your inability to be constructive to a conversation. ✌️
 
If you reframe the question to "how do I spend money to make this rig work" I think you might have more luck.

Reducing how far back the weight hangs will help. Also try looking to what the overland community does. They carry more weight than rock crawlers for similar reasons to you. Have you looked into on demand airbags in the rear for when most of the weight is transferred back?
 
Back to the OP topic.

If WSS wants to keep the load out he wants, is there anything he can do to improve his capability?

He was thinking mid-arm but it sounds like that’s not necessarily a solution so would changing shocks in the rear reduce the affect of his weight transfer?

That's a good question - spreading load lower and more evenly would be a big improvement. You could add air bags to the rear to aide the springs. If you can set up a base camp to leave stuff behind would be good, or even getting an offroad trailer.
 
Would I have gotten out if the 4Runner didn’t come along? Yeah, and I think the story points to that. It just would’ve taken longer. But because of this incident I choose not to go alone anymore. My choice, others choose differently.
I was not specifically pointing to you, even though it was a quote. I meant it more of a follow up for folks making the choice.

Before our first “off road” vehicle in 1995, I already had 30k plus miles running D37 desert plus long trail rides in the mountains in so cal (Kennedy meadows being my favorite). We are never really lost. If we break down, we get to test our skills. I am always prepared for at least three nights on a trail. I actually kind of enjoy the challenge. My wife is far more “outdoor fit” than I am. But her lifestyle has left her with a severe case of spinal stenosis which is why I am always searching for a “better ride”.
 
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I was not specifically pointing to you, even though it was a quote. I meant it more of a follow up for folks making the choice.

Before our first “off road” vehicle in 1995, I already had 30k plus miles running D37 desert plus long trail rides in the mountains in so cal (Kennedy meadows being my favorite). We are never really lost. If we break down, we get to test our skills. I am always prepared for at least three nights on a trail. I actually kind of enjoy the challenge. My wife is far more “outdoor fit” than I am. But her lifestyle has left her with a severe case of spinal stenosis which is why I am always searching for a “better ride”.
Les is that you?

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So a few pages back were some good suggestions. I have plans already to move the items on the rack forward to right above the rear axle. I’ll get some pics to explain but it is basically a half roof rack made really light. I’ll probably do the main (2) hoops out of .090” x 1” round tube and the four or five cross bars out of .060” x 3/4” square tube. Probably come yo the same as the rack ( I think it was 23lbs) but it will be moved over the cam/cant position.
 
You can see the tabs on the side, 3/16” with a half inch hole. I can use those tabs to build the rack. I won’t build a rail around it, just a flat platform with tabs welded to hold things down like the ice chest.

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Ok, watch how light the front end looks when it crosses the top on both vids..


(right at 1 minute)


(right at 35 seconds)


Watch this motion at 35ish second and the front bounce at 44 seconds... Fun ride but I think this can improved.

Looks like you just need to remove all that weight from the back.
 
After reading the whole thread quickly, my advice @WSS is to get another rig for your wife. You double your interior storage space, all get to go camping, have another rig so your not wheelin’ alone, and both rigs are lightened and more capable.
 
After reading the whole thread quickly, my advice @WSS is to get another rig for your wife. You double your interior storage space, all get to go camping, have another rig so your not wheelin’ alone, and both rigs are lightened and more capable.
Sounds like a very familiar plan
 
After reading the whole thread quickly, my advice @WSS is to get another rig for your wife. You double your interior storage space, all get to go camping, have another rig so your not wheelin’ alone, and both rigs are lightened and more capable.

Can't say I disagree with you.

I keep looking for a way that I can easily (and comfortably) take my wife and three kids wheeling with me in the TJ. It simply isn't going to happen. I think the best bet is to simply get another vehicle so we can go wheeling in two vehicles. Then we are never wheeling alone either, so it's kind of like a built in wheeling buddy.
 
You read well between the lines. No way I’m putting all that stuff hanging off my rig.
I’ll carry a spare on the new rig but it won’t be on a rear swing out anymore. Don’t want the overhang nor the extra weight.