Daily Driver, Go Where I Want To Build
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Well, it sounds like there’s nothing practical about any solution to stretching
Yes and no. When you get to where you fully understand the impact of the two pics below, why they matter and what the two aluminum straight edges represent, then we'll discuss practicality.Well, it sounds like there’s nothing practical about any solution to stretching
This is a strong hint.
Final hint-
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Is that for your half recessed tank like you did in Kat's rig? I'm guessing some sort of support since crossmember is gone. Is aluminum bar for mounting?
I'll take a stab too. Because your trying to tuck a stock tank up higher, you will have to cut the floor. The rear cross-member torque box and cargo floor bracing will have to be removed, so your fabricating a "box" for the tank to sit in, which will transfer forces around around the missing components, adding the strength and rigidity (rigidness?) back to the tub. Will the tank skid plate still be frame mounted?
I remember that photo! The rear floor was raised and the gas tank tucked up - that's the one you are referring to here, right? Sadly can't find a higher resolution one.
It never ceases to amaze me how far back the frame cutout for the coilovers are in this photo. Quite literally as far out as it can go. Great attention to detail Blaine.
Find what is missing in the last pic. I’m guessing the coilover towers are pushed so far back that they run into the torque box and rear body mounts. So he built one where the mounts are moved inwards. The pieces of flat bar tie vertically to the tub and horizontally to the corner. That’s my guess
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When the frame arch is pushed back, the rear body mounts are chopped off. They need to go back somewhere. And it might not be where they were before. Especially when the rearmost flat section of frame where the rear crossmember was is gone. And while we are in there and moving body mounts, take the opportunity to make a torque box with a significant amount of strength at the rear of the tub where the corners and sill all attach. (Maybe create a sound base for your GR cage extensions to actually do something meaningful).
And to everyone else, his pics have nothing to do with tucking the gas tank up into the tub floor.
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The factory torque box hits the frame since it’s no longer flat back there. Seen some shitty clearance jobs on the torque box to make it work but Blaine’s new torque box is much smarter. And cleaner.
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Looking forward to seeing this play out. However with lengthening the center of the frame and moving body mounts why not a new rear back half frame?
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if you're goin far enough, you gotta loose those torque box ends for wheel space. cap the ends tie them back to the tub then move the body mounts in. and stiffen the weak hanging corners.
the torque box is not super stout so it needs a bolster (a shim) between the body mount and the body to disperse load. i also put nut plates in there to catch those body mount bolts and disperse that pinch/clamp load.
the torque box is not super stout so it needs a bolster (a shim) between the body mount and the body to disperse load. i also put nut plates in there to catch those body mount bolts and disperse that pinch/clamp load.
what you come up with in this instance may be more helpful since it does still incorporate original frame bits, that are gonna face common work around requirements for most interested.
i had the luxury of just building where i need things to be. and past the torque box chop (that Blaine was good enough to share) is not gonna be common with anybody.
i had the luxury of just building where i need things to be. and past the torque box chop (that Blaine was good enough to share) is not gonna be common with anybody.
Back halfs are rarely arched over the axle. They rarely tie into the old frame cleanly. The rear crossmember/body mounts/torque box hacking is rarely clean. I've been waiting for non overcast day to get some pics, maybe tomorrow. They will show exactly why I do it this way.
Folks don't understand the function and construction of the torque box. Few know that the only attachment the tub rear panels where the tail lights are is ONLY at the outer face of the torque box and the only part of the tub that stops the tailgate opening from moving back and forth once the tail gate is open or removed. Not only that but the outer face of the torque box is a single layer of 18 gauge sheet metal with offsets to go under the tail gate. If you look at the lower section under the tail gate, you can see the offset outward indicated by the arrows below. The visible spot welds are circled.