Do you have swaybar disconnects on the rear axle?

[joe98tj]

I dont think thats how this works, you were saying its useless to run a rear AR where you are yet it wouldnt really give you any downside, It would give you more stability for (maybe) slightly less travel, yet in reality 99% of us TJ owners dont need to disconnect the rear. He doesnt react to people who run disconnects because the people with disconnects dont argue that disconnected is better than a torsion bar setup. correct me if im wrong please. I like to and am open to learn

If i said useless I was wrong. The antirock works, I just don't have the need for one in the rear and i don't get the feel most of the others I wheel with do either. Like I mentioned, if we had the cash we'd run them, but we know how to wheel without them and dump the money into other things. Everyones arguing its a need and I'm just sharing my opinion that its more of a want but no one likes that

 

[D M]

If i said useless I was wrong. The antirock works, I just don't have the need for one in the rear and i don't get the feel most of the others I wheel with do either. Like I mentioned, if we had the cash we'd run them, but we know how to wheel without them and dump the money into other things. Everyones arguing its a need and I'm just sharing my opinion that its more of a want but no one likes that

well said, as I too was just giving my .02

 

[jjvw]

I agreed with you're argument that the antirock is the best option to have. You just can't accept that I believe it works just fine to not run a rear sway bar. I hope this isn't how you react to people who run quick disconnects in the front....

You argued that there no value in keeping it. And that you and your crowd will tell others to ditch it along with the front.

That may very well be true for what you guys do. But it is only true because it doesn't matter for what you guys do. And it additionally means that you and your guys also don't care about street performance to compliment the improved off-road capabilities.

There is a big difference between something working fine and saying it doesn't matter. You and your guys cannot argue that a TJ works better without the rear sway bar. All you can argue is that it doesn't cause a serious detriment for what you do.

 

[Irun]

Everyones arguing its a need and I'm just sharing my opinion that its more of a want but no one likes that

It's a need if you want to control body roll, which impacts steering and braking performance, not in a positive way. They can also help promote better offroad traction. You're welcome to your perspective, just understand that others, especially here, will come back with a substantive understanding of how things work.

 

[joe98tj]

You're welcome to your perspective, just understand that others, especially here, will come back with a substantive understanding of how things work.

This wouldn't be where it's at if that were true. My opinion was just met with insults over facts since my idea doesn't conform to the one way or highway ideas on here.

 

[Irun]

This wouldn't be where it's at if that were true. My opinion was just met with insults over facts since my idea doesn't conform to the one way or highway ideas on here.

Sounds like you just want to either argue, be correct, or both. Physics and gravity are a real thing. Sway bars are meant to help deal with them. Yes, you can ignore them, but that doesn't mean they aren't there.

 

[Lou]

This wouldn't be where it's at if that were true. My opinion was just met with insults over facts since my idea doesn't conform to the one way or highway ideas on here.

Still waiting for the benefits to no rear sway bar. What does one benefit by removing it?

 

[mrblaine]

to each their own man. If you wanna keep it in thats your purgative. It works just fine without one.

I do so love a great bordering on awesome ironic Freudian slip.
If you wanna keep it in, the last thing you want is a purgative. I'll let you look that one up.

 

[mrblaine]

I guess my question is what benefit does removing the rear swaybar add?

Zero

 

[jjvw]

I do so love a great bordering on awesome ironic Freudian slip.
If you wanna keep it in, the last thing you want is a purgative. I'll let you look that one up.

He likes a loose rear end.

 

[mrblaine]

Yeah I mean you can't forget new england isn't colorado and I;m not saying colorado is new england. I;m sorry it doesn't fly under the one way of thinking around here but it works just fine.

Trying to slap that bullshit under the excuse of flying in the face of "one way thinking around here" is akin to stating that tires don't need to have air in them to work which is of course correct unless you want to to function as a tire. I've seen lots of tires used for lots of things that don't require them to be full of air but they aren't working as a tire at that point.

 

[mrblaine]

I think you just over value the slight addition of traction the stock rear sway bar gives.

I think you don't know what you don't know.

 

[mrblaine]

Probably, but to each their own is a belief of mine. What you do with your jeep is none of my concern

Smartest thing you've said since you got here. Until you try to make a case that alters reality, then not so much.

If you want to state that you run a rear swaybar because it doesn't matter for you, that's awesome. If you however bleed that over into "you don't need one", then you've stepped out of "to each their own" to an entirely different area of knowledge.

 

[jesseshoots]

Still waiting for the benefits to no rear sway bar. What does one benefit by removing it?

He only benefits the five minutes of time saved installing it

 

[mrblaine]

If i said useless I was wrong. The antirock works, I just don't have the need for one in the rear and i don't get the feel most of the others I wheel with do either. Like I mentioned, if we had the cash we'd run them, but we know how to wheel without them and dump the money into other things. Everyones arguing its a need and I'm just sharing my opinion that its more of a want but no one likes that

A near free set of extended sway bar links is money you can better dump into other things? What, your total yearly Jeep budget is 14 dollars?

 

[joe98tj]

He only benefits the five minutes of time saved installing it

time and effort well saved!

 

[mrblaine]

This wouldn't be where it's at if that were true. My opinion was just met with insults over facts since my idea doesn't conform to the one way or highway ideas on here.

Why don't go read post #3 again and see how what you just said flies fully in the face of that. You started this crap with your "my way or the highway" bullshit.

 

[never monday]

Only valid reason I can think of for a rear bar delete, is a higher ramp flex score

 

[RHanna]

Interesting video on the subject. The conclusion was to keep it on

 

[jjvw]

Only valid reason I can think of for a rear bar delete, is a higher ramp flex score

Way back when, joe never answered my question about how much shock travel we are working with. It's an important question.