I even got condensation on the front windows, this is how cold it was inside.
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In fairness it’s Houston….growing up every morning the windows sills are all water from condensation ha.
That’s cold though, we need it here
I even got condensation on the front windows, this is how cold it was inside.
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I’m going to be a jerk here. One site or two listing “discontinued” doesn’t mean they aren’t out there. Literally Amazon has a listing with 1 left in stock right now.
You have to search a little. I’m sure eBay has some, I’m not going to look there too, but if you want your Jeep to work right, I’d get on it asap.
this is exactly my point. We need to have cold AC, as cold as the FSM defines in AC spec. The problem is that I think that most of us simply don’t get there, and that the main reason for it is weak cooling is that the cooling system of the engine is kinda weak.
The cooling system in stock form is not even remotely close to a tiny bit weak and is in fact, quite the opposite. I've worked on many of them, folks know I do so they get with me to solve cooling issues. I don't supply parts, so I give them a parts list. Guy shows up with the parts, we pull the fan shroud to start the job and I notice mud in the radiator. We pull the radiator and notice that there is only a clear spot free of mud right in front of the fan blade about the size of a dinner plate. I ask him about it and he relates it has been almost a year since he went mudding in Azusa. In the meantime his rig has had no cooling issues until it started to warm up to 90+ and he was running up the mountain to Big Bear during which it was just starting to move a couple of needle widths to the right of 210.
We put the pressure washer on high flow low pressure, cleaned all the mud out, did a quick flush with some distilled, put in new Mopar coolant and sent him on his way with a promise to let us know how it worked. It did not run warm on the way up to Big Bear on hotter days. That doesn't happen with a limited capacity system nor will a limited system keep the rig running fine until very warm days running up the hills.
As @cpwolf said they are available. Ordered one on Tuesday night from Amazon (manual transmission) and it was at my door Friday mid day in a factory unopened box brand new.
Thanks a lot for your explanation.
I am on path of installing everything Mopar, with one tiny problem - only Mopar radiators for TJ 2004 that I can find are for manual, not for automatic. I have Derale transmission oil cooler ( the one that goes on the frame in the back, waiting to be installed in my garage), but I don’t think that I can just skip having transmission oil passing through engine radiator. I mean I can take manual radiator, without oil cooler in the bottom, install it and have oil cooled by Derale only. The problem with this approach is that transmission oil will be get to working temperature fast enough.
If you can advise me with these 2 questions, I will pray for your Carma:
1. What do you think about sourcing manual radiator and relying on Derale only? This will get it cold enough, I believe,. But will not heat it up at all.
2. If not Mopar (only manual ones left), is there any other radiator that you would recommend?
I looked today and bought a TJ MOPAR for an 05 which just has different connections at the radiator trans cooler that can be adapted. Keep looking, they are out there. Amazon even has one.
Just bought this guy on Amazon:
55037653AC
It is for 2005 automatic, but as you advised, I will adapt the transmission cooling lines.
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If you want to get fancy and duplicate the bend at the cooler on the right side, this "should" work.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BWZ1NFC/?tag=wranglerorg-20
I purchased the manual radiator and then added a trans cooler.
I thought about this option, as I am installing separate Derale cooler for my transmission. But, the problem with this approach is that the engine radiator is supposed to heat up the oil to the working temperature, and with separate cooler it will never happen.
To be fair, those type rigs aren't doing sustained trips at highway speeds for 100,000 plus total miles.I have used trans coolers with fans that come on when I switch my radiator fans on after startup, never had any issues with any of them .
I thought about this option, as I am installing separate Derale cooler for my transmission. But, the problem with this approach is that the engine radiator is supposed to heat up the oil to the working temperature, and with separate cooler it will never happen.
Not that you should but there are thermostatically controlled transmission cooler bypass valves specifically made for that problem. They circulate the fluid back into the transmission until it gets warm enough to open the bypass which then shunts it through the cooler and then back into the transmission.
I’ve never owned an automatic Jeep, but is this a real problem? The Trans fluid needs to be heated? I’m ignorant to this for sure.
Would letting the Jeep sit and idle like I have to on this CJ 304 do the trick?
You said “ not that you should” so I assume you wouldn’t necessarily. Is this a solution looking for a real problem?