Turbo vs engine swap

I am admittedly very under knowledged when it comes to forced induction, where could I find an oem take off for this turbo, if I do eventually take this route, I just want to make sure I do it right.

For a 2.5 you could use a TD04 off a Subaru or similar. Check Ebay or FB Marketplace. Lots of take off units cheap.
 
What about the neon srt turbo? How much from that setup could we adapt to a 2.5?

I'm sure there is a way to get it on there, but the SRT uses a turbo integrated into the exhaust manifold design. They are more expensive, and you would have to adapt the 2.5 manifold head flange to the 2.4. Then there is the issue of the turbo facing backwards towards the firewall. I think a better choice would be a more modular turbo that bolts to a manifold.
 
Turbos on Jeeps are a total waste of time and money.

How many properly set up turbo jeeps have you ridden in?

I sling shot up inclines and grades with a big smile on my face, and the turbo assists with the load in stop and go. If that’s a waste of time and money then sign me up every time

Feel free to hop in sometime if you’d like. I’m game to ride in your LS3 rig as well…I had a 2012 Silverado with the 6.2L, and I’m sure it’s a blast in a TJ.

I’d certainly consider the jump if both my engine and tranny shit the bed.
 
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Turbos are not cheap to setup esp if youre not trained on how to do it and tune it right. The LSx swaps are better from that persoective Id speculate

I would ask if anyone has swapped a newer 2.0L Turbo into a TJ with a manual trans yet. Modern powertrain swaps are the ticket in my experiences. Boneyards have alot of powertrains sitting waiting. Ya just need harness mod/support. I dont know Jeeps support and mod capacity in that regard tho

Heads are where the power is made (breathing)
Shoving air thru older less efficient heads wont net as much and costs alot. Plus compression needs to be right or youre very limited

https://www.motortrend.com/news/easter-jeep-safari-concept-turbo-engine-srt-tune/
 
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Turbos are not cheap to setup esp if youre not trained on how to do it and tune it right. The LSx swaps are better from that persoective Id speculate

I would ask if anyone has swapped a newer 2.0L Turbo into a TJ with a manual trans yet. Modern powertrain swaps are the ticket in my experiences. Boneyards have alot of powertrains sitting waiting. Ya just need harness mod/support. I dont know Jeeps support and mod capacity in that regard tho

Heads are where the power is made (breathing)
Shoving air thru older less efficient heads wont net as much and costs alot. Plus compression needs to be right or youre very limited

https://www.motortrend.com/news/easter-jeep-safari-concept-turbo-engine-srt-tune/

24 valve dual OHC l6?
 
Turbos are not cheap to setup esp if youre not trained on how to do it and tune it right. The LSx swaps are better from that persoective Id speculate

Cheap compared to what? And you would pay a tuner like FRP if your kit doesn’t come with a tune like mine did.

Heads are where the power is made (breathing)
Shoving air thru older less efficient heads wont net as much and costs alot. Plus compression needs to be right or youre very limited

What are you going on about?

The Banks kit nets over 100 hp and 115 ft/lbs of torque…and is specifically setup for the stock head and stock compression.

And the kit was cheaper than a v8 swap and can be done in a weekend. It also allowed me to keep my Savvy tummy tuck without modification. I did have to bend some angle iron for the passenger side savvy engine armor bracket.

You are talking very confidently about things you likely aren’t educated or experienced on. The hate I’ve seen on turbos is comical. Thankfully, I learned for myself rather than listening to ignorant parrots.
 
You are talking very confidently about things you likely aren’t educated or experienced on. The hate I’ve seen on turbos is comical. Thankfully, I learned for myself rather than listening to ignorant parrots.
“Confidently” and “Id speculate” when discussing Jeeps are contrarian in nature smart guy

Ive done two LSx swaps in classic GM cars , and one is becoming a twin turbo setup reaching for 900-1000hp. I race V8s, the little motors are new to me. The only thing Im unaware of, is what options are already available to Jeeps, hence the “i would speculate”

I wouldnt waste my time on turbos for just a 100hp gain personally. Its a weak gain. Of course, that appeals to you , cool
 
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“Confidently” and “Id speculate” when discussing Jeeps are contrarian in nature smart guy

Ive done two LSx swaps in classic GM cars , and one is becoming a twin turbo setup reaching for 900-1000hp. I race V8s, the little motors are new to me. The only thing Im unaware of, is what options are already available to Jeeps, hence the “i would speculate”

I wouldnt waste my time on turbos for just a 100hp gain personally. Its a weak gain. Of course, that appeals to you , cool

100hp gain on a 4.0 is 70% more power. Hardly a waste of time IMO.
 
100hp gain on a 4.0 is 70% more power. Hardly a waste of time IMO.
70%…..Of (2003) 195hp is 100hp??
Gotta be common core math….lol
The Turbo delivers nearly 50 percent more horsepower than stock and just over 50 percent more torque.
https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/1308-banks-4-0l-sidewinder-turbo-system/

While anyone can push MORE boost thru any engine, the question is how long can a stock bottom end (higher mileage engine?) handle it before grenading. 290hp is decent, but a V8 is alot more expandable. I threw the 2.0L out as a question

Opinions vary,
dont be so defensive over your choice if you like it
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“Confidently” and “Id speculate” when discussing Jeeps are contrarian in nature smart guy

Ive done two LSx swaps in classic GM cars , and one is becoming a twin turbo setup reaching for 900-1000hp. I race V8s, the little motors are new to me. The only thing Im unaware of, is what options are already available to Jeeps, hence the “i would speculate”

I wouldnt waste my time on turbos for just a 100hp gain personally. Its a weak gain. Of course, that appeals to you , cool

No head modifications are needed to add 100+hp, which is more than enough to make a TJ more enjoyable.

Lots of folks make 1,000 hp in other platforms that’s a different deal all together and adds very little to this conversation.
 
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70%…..Of (2003) 195hp is 100hp??
Gotta be common core math….lol

https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/1308-banks-4-0l-sidewinder-turbo-system/

While anyone can push MORE boost thru any engine, the question is how long can a stock bottom end handle it before grenading. 290hp is decent, but a V8 is alot more expandable

Yep, it’s about 50% more, which is more than enough for most folks who have never sniffed that. It makes the ride with 35s fun and has been reliable since adding to my 200k engine lol. Gale Banks isn’t an idiot and likely knows more than you so i’ll defer to his educated choices over your uneducated options.

Keep in mind that not everyone has the time, money, or desire to install a tricked out V8. The turbo is a great option for folks who are plenty happy with extra 100hp and 115ft/lbs of torque (more this). And it’s fun feeling the turbo kick in when it’s needed.

Amongst other things, I drove up the Hoover dam grades a few times doing 90 mph without a care. I hardly view the results as a wasted effort.
 
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No head modifications are needed to add 100+hp, which is more than enough to make a TJ more enjoyable.

Lots of folks make 1,000 hp in other platforms that’s a different deal all together and adds very little to this conversation.

Nor is 1000hp even desirable in a tj.

Most affordable stock LS motors are around the 300hp mark or less. Then you need trans,tcase,cooling,tuning,etc,etc. The LS swap is magnitudes more expensive.

Adding a turbo to a 4.0l vs an LS swap is about as far from an apples to apples comparison as you can get.
 
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