Cages are like pregnancy, you are or you ain't. It is a cage or it isn't.
Do-anything LJ build advice
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Cages are like pregnancy, you are or you ain't. It is a cage or it isn't.
You don't. Toss them things and invest in some quality shocks.
If you want to go wheel with rigs on 40s in a 35s build, you want to make it a nice 35s build. So I’d look into some 12” fox remote resi shocks with Poly towers. You want 12” in the rear and 11” up front
Report back what sound they make when you throw them into the trash can.
No. Those are the lengths you build the shock mounts for.
A peripheral response would be to suggest that focusing on building a rig which is stable and predictable will go a long way towards not ending upside down. Add to that, if you have the sensibilities to pursue building a rig that is stable and predictable, the less likely you are to abandon reason in your driving choices.
Your priorities shift away from peacocking and assholing where you need to protect yourself from yourself, over to problem solving and refinement to make the systems that comprise the rig work together as a unified whole.
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Got it, outboard the rear shocks.
Not in the budget yet, suggest something for a short term replacement?
Pick your poison. Anything bolt on will be varying degrees of vague and adequate.
To add, there isn’t anything out there that performs well, that also bolts on. You pick what garbage you want to live with until you can take it no longer and you spend the big money on tunable shocks
Lots of people are happy with Ranchos. I absolutely hated them. I then tried about three other types of bolt on shocks. Settled on the skyjacker black max because they are the least offensive to me. I am currently working on rebuilding a set of fox remote reservoirs to fix that problem once and for all.
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I've got a rig here with correct length Rancho 9000X on it. I'm practically certain I can convince the owner to trade you a dead cat in a box for the whole set. I've ridden on some of the worst shocks ever and these make them all seem stellar in comparison.
Ever tried KYB Monomax shocks? My first TJ had them from the PO with a 4” lift. I think replacing them with solid bars would have improved the ride.
I did not hate the Rancho 9000X, but I wouldn’t pay to run them again.
What about Bilstein? They have a decent rep…
I’d try the skyjacker blackmax if I was going for off the shelf. I ran rancho 5000x shocks for a while and they were okay on road but off-road just sucks in comparison to tuned fox’s. Sounds like most like the blackmax more than the rancho. When I went to good shocks it was like it unlocked a little whole new aspect of wheeling which was the ability to go fast off-road. Really really good smiles/dollar investment.
I would like to get input, especially from @mrblaine, since you sir know alot !
My question regarding running a cage with a 5-point harness on a daily driver, Would it pose a greater risk to run such a roll cage and 5 point harness compared to stock when it comes to daily street driving, im assuming the harness and roll cage would help out better in an accident compared to the stock seatbelts and cage if it were a really bad cage
I want to make sure that my jeep and myself are protected in case of a roll on the trail if shit were to go south. I would would need/want ties that go to the frame, bracing behind the dash, and potentially keeping the stock B pillar bar since its stronger than what anyone would want to replace it with, removable door tubes since there's dom tube couplers/connector deals (note i would have them on when offroad)
I want the cage to protect me, but not solely to encourage me to take dangerous lines. My concern is whether having a built roll cage for daily driving would pose a greater risk compared to the stock cage. Would adding proper padding make it safer in case of an accident on the street? I understand that no one can predict the future on weather you'd survive a crash with either 5 point harness and cage setup vs. the stock setup, but I would appreciate any insight on the safety of a built cage and 5 point harness on the street compared to a stock cage and seatbelt setup.
I have seen cases where people roll over and barely make it out alive, and it seems like a good cage and harness could have prevented that with the only thing happening of said person would've been some scratches and a hard earned lesson on the trail
My question regarding running a cage with a 5-point harness on a daily driver, Would it pose a greater risk to run such a roll cage and 5 point harness compared to stock when it comes to daily street driving, im assuming the harness and roll cage would help out better in an accident compared to the stock seatbelts and cage if it were a really bad cage
I want to make sure that my jeep and myself are protected in case of a roll on the trail if shit were to go south. I would would need/want ties that go to the frame, bracing behind the dash, and potentially keeping the stock B pillar bar since its stronger than what anyone would want to replace it with, removable door tubes since there's dom tube couplers/connector deals (note i would have them on when offroad)
I want the cage to protect me, but not solely to encourage me to take dangerous lines. My concern is whether having a built roll cage for daily driving would pose a greater risk compared to the stock cage. Would adding proper padding make it safer in case of an accident on the street? I understand that no one can predict the future on weather you'd survive a crash with either 5 point harness and cage setup vs. the stock setup, but I would appreciate any insight on the safety of a built cage and 5 point harness on the street compared to a stock cage and seatbelt setup.
I have seen cases where people roll over and barely make it out alive, and it seems like a good cage and harness could have prevented that with the only thing happening of said person would've been some scratches and a hard earned lesson on the trail
Hopefully i wont get flamed on this topic on this thread, just want some info on what i asked for me and for others to learn and to proceed
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