Watch the BFH Garage videos and ask @hosejockey61 a few questions to do it yourself. I'll do my next one after watching/working with him on mine.
$3200 for a re-gear?
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You've got the attention to detail necessary @Jamison C. If you have access to the special tools (dial indicator with mag stand, Press, and a dial torque wrench that measures in-lbs), Do it yourself.
They are including the inner axle seals for the front axle and the outer bearings, seals, and retention plates for the rear axle. They are not included in the master install kit. Those things may or may not need to be replaced. If you don't have any leaks currently, you probably don't need to replace them...but the best time to damage them is when you pull the rear end apart. They may just replace them as a matter of course to avoid call-backs.
They are including the inner axle seals for the front axle and the outer bearings, seals, and retention plates for the rear axle. They are not included in the master install kit. Those things may or may not need to be replaced. If you don't have any leaks currently, you probably don't need to replace them...but the best time to damage them is when you pull the rear end apart. They may just replace them as a matter of course to avoid call-backs.
I looked at that invoice and it is what it is. When I do a re-gear, my price reflects everything. This one breaks down everything but seems to double charge. For example, the $1500 for the re-gear is just labor and then he adds parts. That's close to my price for everything, including parts.
The other part of the invoice shows them rebuilding the rear axle shafts with new bearings.... Did you request that? That adds a lot of $$$ to your overall cost.
The other part of the invoice shows them rebuilding the rear axle shafts with new bearings.... Did you request that? That adds a lot of $$$ to your overall cost.
Are you focusing on 4x4 shops? That's a commonly done job in any 4x4 shop I have ever been to.
1.5 hrs. just to get there plus how ever long it takes to navigate traffic. the dfw area is quite spread out. actually thinking about just upgrading axles with dana 44 front and rear. it’s not that much more than a super 35 and a built 30 for the front.
It'd be worth the drive to get it regeared. I literally drove further than that for my Goodyear MT/R tires.
Hey guys my Jeep needs a new batt—“TAKE IT TO DALLAS OFFROAD!”
I’m in Plano. I don’t really know of any good shops that have reasonable prices. As the JK and JL owners jump on the regear train, the prices have skyrocketed even for the older Jeeps whose regear prices have gone through the roof even though the parts and procedure have not changed. If I didn’t have my good buddy @pc1p to do it for me a year and a few months ago in Arizona (he also found me some axles hence why the trip was worth it), I would have probably saved up for the tools and just done it myself. I don’t really know of anyone to do it locally.
There is a Tacoma guy regearing my Tacoma down in Lago Vista in February, it’s a bit of a drive though. Would make for a long day. Not sure if he does Jeeps though. He’s super experienced with Tacoma diffs though so I know I’m in good hands there.
I would recommend you come to my house and we throw videos on the garage TV and we figure out how to do them together. Because I’m way too cheap to pay those prices, and I’m confident I can follow directions.
But closest to you is either Collin County Off-road or that place out 380 towards Princeton. Don’t know the name.
There’s GOT to be a place in Garland or Mesquite (or Terrell or Forney) that does this sort of thing. You shouldn’t even have to go inside the 635 loop to find a 4x4 shop that will do a regear.
dedicated 4 X 4 shops seem hard to come by. places around my area only do lifts and other accessories.
I appreciate it, and for many other tasks I'd take you up on your offer. I don't trust my level of skill nor tool/equipment availability to attempt a re-gear.
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Looking at Revolution's site, it looks like their kits only come with bearings and seals for the center section itself - pinion and carrier bearings, and a pinion seal. The axle shaft bearings and seals aren't included, and while I know people here love Mopar-branded parts, $200+ for an axle bearing for the part alone is highway robbery. Rockauto sells the same Mopar part for $98 and you can get a Timken, National, or SKF for about $30. I know shops don't pay Rockauto prices for parts but, again, $212.50 for a bearing?
I had LetzRoll in Mesa regear mine in 2020. I had them do it as part of an 8.8 swap and ARB install, but at that time they were charging $1200 for a regear, parts and labor included, whether you had them do anything else or not.
If this happens, I volunteer as Project Observer in charge of beer distribution.
Note that many of the places with the "$1200 specials" are only swapping the ring and pinion sets. They are NOT swapping out carrier or pinion bearings, but are reusing the factory stuff. They became popular with JK guys since they could drive in their relatively low mileage JK, get some proper gearing and new seals, and be on there way in a few days. On a TJ or older rig, they're getting all new bearings, which does add to the expense some. I have known a handful of folk who have driven in their +90,000 mile JKUs in, only to be told that their $1200 regear is now $3500.
Now that said, $1545 seems high for the Revo kit, even with retail markup. I'm showing <$600 for a Revo 5.13 kit with TImken bearings (https://www.revolutiongear.com/prod...373_513_ratio_frontrear_wmaster_overhaul_kits).
Same with your rear "Mopar" rear bearings and seals - the Spicer seals and bearings are 1/3 of what the quote lists them for. I get retail markup, but that seems a bit excessive.
Oddly enough, time wise, the labor seems reasonable. I'm guessing their labor rate is ~$125/hr-150/hr. To do both axles while under the rig, plus pull and press axle bearings, it isn't hard to chew up 10 hours of work by someone who knows what they're doing (this is why I only regear for friends, like @machoheadgames and @Dale W).
Seriously though, @Jamison C doing gears isn't rocket surgery. It takes some special tools and patience, but I learned how to do gears by my dad's good friend who always did them while being halfway through a case of Bud Lights and never once had an issue in anything he ever did. Contrary to what many web wheelers suggest, he also loved used gears, especially in the 9" third-members he would use in his drag cars (he said they were stronger and have been through enough heat cycles to make the "track worthy" - his words). If I were still back in AZ, I'd help you out. Ever think about taking a trip to PA?
Now that said, $1545 seems high for the Revo kit, even with retail markup. I'm showing <$600 for a Revo 5.13 kit with TImken bearings (https://www.revolutiongear.com/prod...373_513_ratio_frontrear_wmaster_overhaul_kits).
Same with your rear "Mopar" rear bearings and seals - the Spicer seals and bearings are 1/3 of what the quote lists them for. I get retail markup, but that seems a bit excessive.
Oddly enough, time wise, the labor seems reasonable. I'm guessing their labor rate is ~$125/hr-150/hr. To do both axles while under the rig, plus pull and press axle bearings, it isn't hard to chew up 10 hours of work by someone who knows what they're doing (this is why I only regear for friends, like @machoheadgames and @Dale W).
Seriously though, @Jamison C doing gears isn't rocket surgery. It takes some special tools and patience, but I learned how to do gears by my dad's good friend who always did them while being halfway through a case of Bud Lights and never once had an issue in anything he ever did. Contrary to what many web wheelers suggest, he also loved used gears, especially in the 9" third-members he would use in his drag cars (he said they were stronger and have been through enough heat cycles to make the "track worthy" - his words). If I were still back in AZ, I'd help you out. Ever think about taking a trip to PA?