05-06 PCM issue is solved

Moto Mike said:
I have read most every forum/post and investigated all of the so called options/fly by night companies out there with this pcm issue because my 05 lj rubicon has been down this dead end road. I got real tired of the uncertainty of what rabbit hole this was going to lead me down. Since I plan on keeping this jeep and always wanted a V-8, I decided to just sell off/save and am now swapping in an LS motor and am not looking back.
I realize this may not be a viable option for every one, but it was the excuse I needed to move forward.
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Good morning Chris,

If you have any questions about our pcm solution you can private message or call me. We aren’t a fly by flight company.
 
Wranglerfix said:
I will gladly help you with your pcm issue. Please private message me or call me at 866-888-7710

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Mark
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Will call after work and will give you a shot as long as I have a money back guarantee. Have already paid for a rebuild that does not work
 
Moto Mike said:
I have read most every forum/post and investigated all of the so called options/fly by night companies out there with this pcm issue because my 05 lj rubicon has been down this dead end road. I got real tired of the uncertainty of what rabbit hole this was going to lead me down. Since I plan on keeping this jeep and always wanted a V-8, I decided to just sell off/save and am now swapping in an LS motor and am not looking back.
I realize this may not be a viable option for every one, but it was the excuse I needed to move forward.
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This has always been my long-term plan (both on my prior TJ and now the LJ), unfortunately my PCM shit the bed and won't even start the jeep any more, so I had no choice since it's my DD and I don't have the time/resources to convert it yet. Good luck on that LS swap!
 
I’ve been pretty skeptical of Wrangler Fix, but I’ve spent some time talking to Mark and I’ve decided to go with their product. I would have liked more info about what exactly makes their solution different, but I also appreciate why he would not want to share trade secrets. I do believe they have found a unique solution, one that does not use the ‘05-‘06 PCM. Sorry about the “snake oil” comment, Mark!
 
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tworley said:
It is interesting to see most members with the new fix have under 50 posts each...Could it be just a coincidence?
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I can only speak for myself, but I have under 50 posts because I only recently purchased my Wrangler and joined this forum. I started experiencing hard shifts from 1st to 2nd gear and my research of the issue brought me here. I purchased the Wrangler Fix PCM in June. It arrived in about 3 business days and I installed it with 48,125 miles on my ‘06 Wrangler. I just turned 49,000 miles, so I’m approaching the 800 mile mark and shifting is still smooth.

The only “odd” thing that I have experienced recently is it will idle slightly rough when I come to a stop, like at a stop light or stopping at my destination. This has not happened consistently and I have no idea if it is related to the function of a PCM. I recently had it serviced by a local shop that specializes in Jeeps and Wranglers and they said the transmission had no trouble codes and they gave it a clean bill of health. I did inform them that I had installed the new PCM.

If you have any ideas about the rough idle please let me know.
 
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One thing I find interesting about this "fix" is that the guy doesn't bother to go into any detail whatsoever about how he has fixed it.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a fix for it, but my guess is that it's something much simpler than he's leading onto, and he's giving us the old "used car salesman" approach, making it look like it's much more of a big deal than it is.

I'd like some actual information as to what's being done to fix it as oppose to just a blanket statement of, "it's fixed".

We may never get that though, so I'll just sit back, relax, and see what others have to say who may end up trying this.
 
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Chris said:
One thing I find interesting about this "fix" is that the guy doesn't bother to go into any detail whatsoever about how he has fixed it.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a fix for it, but my guess is that it's something much simpler than he's leading onto, and he's giving us the old "used car salesman" approach, making it look like it's much more of a big deal than it is.

I'd like some actual information as to what's being done to fix it as oppose to just a blanket statement of, "it's fixed".

We may never get that though, so I'll just sit back, relax, and see what others have to say who may end up trying this.
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True, but do we have any details about what Flagship 1 does to their product? The most interesting thing that I learned from talking to Mark is that he does not use an ‘05-‘06 PCM as the base of his solution.
 
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Chris said:
One thing I find interesting about this "fix" is that the guy doesn't bother to go into any detail whatsoever about how he has fixed it.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a fix for it, but my guess is that it's something much simpler than he's leading onto, and he's giving us the old "used car salesman" approach, making it look like it's much more of a big deal than it is.

I'd like some actual information as to what's being done to fix it as oppose to just a blanket statement of, "it's fixed".

We may never get that though, so I'll just sit back, relax, and see what others have to say who may end up trying this.
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The "fix" will be by the very nature of the beast, something other than a repaired, or reman 05-06 TJ PCM. They just aren't out there to be had. Or, if they are, someone is hoarding them.

As someone who has had more of my shit copied than I can stand, I fully understand the lack of full disclosure. If you come up with a way to solve a problem, I personally see nothing wrong with playing your cards a bit close to the vest when queries as to how you accomplished it may reveal an answer that will open the door for others to step on your dick.

I have a very good idea as to what they are doing. It is a very logical answer. I could probably even come up with a sample if I had to, but I think about things like this in a problem solving manner so it would not be unusual for me to be closer to right than not.

That and you don't need an answer as to how it is being done, neither does anyone else. All we need to know is whether or not it works. If it works, it is a solution that is desperately needed. If it doesn't (and that won't take long to figure out) then we are back to the drawing board for a solution.
 
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LD68 said:
An update. The code that cannot be cleared is P0032 as per the head engineer at A1 Cardone.
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I wish I knew more about how this shit works but I understand that code is the death knell of a PCM if it won't clear. It would be nice if we had someone smart who could verify that.
 
Buying a PCM from wranglerfix.com solved my MIL issues with various codes. After several hours and frustration trying to resolve it myself based on the codes (buying/replacing parts, resetting codes, disconnecting battery, etc.), I came across similar issues as noted here and the rebuilt core from wranglerfix. Simple purchase process and very simple install process. Result=problem solved. Thanks again to Mark and wranglerfix.com.
 
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Rcroane said:
True, but do we have any details about what Flagship 1 does to their product? The most interesting thing that I learned from talking to Mark is that he does not use an ‘05-‘06 PCM as the base of his solution.
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FS1 is doing nothing other than buying and hoarding PCMs from wrecked TJs to my knowledge.

That and fixing leaky capacitors on PCMs when and if they can be fixed.
 
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I have less than 50 posts here because I read info from here more than talk. All I can say again on the Wrangler Fix PCM I bought is that it works. I've had the Wrangler Fix in for about 3 or 4 weeks, over 500 miles and have no problems. I also note that everyone else who has posted about their Wrangler Fix PCM is saying the same thing. I don't know how Mark and his associates fixed the problem, but they did.
 
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Hey guys,

Here are some photos of our Pcm!

Thanks,

Mark

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Good evening guys,

Just a quick note to say thank you your kind words and positive feedback on our pcm.

I posted this last night on another thread in case you didn’t get a chance to read it.

PCM issues are no stranger to Dodge, Chrysler or Jeep...The 05-06 TJ PCM wasn’t an easy fix and there should’ve been a class-action lawsuit against Jeep for no support (Same exact issue with 06-07 SRT-8 Grand Cherokees that we also solved!)

When the 05-06 PCM fails, it’s virtually impossible to repair. I equate it to trying to put Humpty Dumpty back together again. I sent it out to Flight Systems in PA and the CEO at the time told me “DOA.”

Here’s what we did to solve:

Purchased an 05 Wrangler

Purchased a working PCM ($2500.00 at the time)

Our techs found a Chrysler OEM part that most mimics the 05-06 TJ’s (2004 was a three plug PCM and 07 went to 3.8L) and with both hardware and software changes came up with the fix.

By no means are we perfect. We have laid some rotten eggs during this process. However, we stand behind our work and have the utmost confidence in our abilities to solve electronic issues.

I hope this answers some of your questions and/or concerns and I look forward to your responses.

Mark
 
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